Frink's Digital Diorama [was: OT Deleted Scene Restoration Project?] — Page 6

Well, as I said, the physical diorama is done.  The digital one, not so much.

I found this for my project:

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/mos-eisley-spaceport/

WRONG THREAD

You bunch of ignorant Idiots! Now I must get rude!

Who is this "you" you refer to?

And why won't you address the whole German thing?

skywalker89 said:

You bunch of ignorant Idiots! Now I must get rude!

Don't get rude with us, young man. Now go to your room and don't come back until you know what you did wrong.

TV's Frink said:

And why won't you address the whole German thing?

adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

You bunch of ignorant Idiots! Now I must get rude!

You've pretty much screwed up ANY chance of getting help from anyone here after that.

You come here and say how crap someone's hard work is, seem to demand that someone hand over all the file that jambe used and now talk crap like this?

For your information NONE of the original Jabba footage is available in HD, ANYWHERE apart from, maybe at Skywalker Ranch.. Its all low quality AT BEST. It had to be recreated using multiple sources of varying quality that the best quality isn't even DVD scale as it's mainly from VHS. Upscaling to to HD isn't going to make it look better. If that is what you want then why not just use the footage from Jambe's doc and work you magic? I highly doubt Jambe would be willing to hand over any of the files he has ( even if he even still has the original files now the project is long finished) after you talking trash about his work. Politeness could have gone a long way to achieving you goal.

I know, I just want to cover the CGI-Crap from the Blu-Ray with the actor, leaving everything around the actor from the Blu-Ray footage, plus some upscale and color correction. And I already found someone. :D

skywalker89 said:

adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

You bunch of ignorant Idiots! Now I must get rude!

You've pretty much screwed up ANY chance of getting help from anyone here after that.

You come here and say how crap someone's hard work is, seem to demand that someone hand over all the file that jambe used and now talk crap like this?

For your information NONE of the original Jabba footage is available in HD, ANYWHERE apart from, maybe at Skywalker Ranch.. Its all low quality AT BEST. It had to be recreated using multiple sources of varying quality that the best quality isn't even DVD scale as it's mainly from VHS. Upscaling to to HD isn't going to make it look better. If that is what you want then why not just use the footage from Jambe's doc and work you magic? I highly doubt Jambe would be willing to hand over any of the files he has ( even if he even still has the original files now the project is long finished) after you talking trash about his work. Politeness could have gone a long way to achieving you goal.

I now, I just want to cover the CGI-Crap from the Blu-Ray with the actor, leaving everything around the actor from the Blu-Ray footage, plus some upscale and color correction. And I already found someone. :D

I changed my mind, I don't want to help now.

TK-949 said:

 

TV's Frink said:

And why won't you address the whole German thing?

Wait, what?

 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Frinks-Digital-Diorama-was-OT-Deleted-Scene-Restoration-Project/post/660813/#TopicPost660813

Do it!

You have all the necessary footage already.

As I said it before I lost patience with you it will look weird but go ahead and do it and post it on another site and taunt us all with it if you think we are such a bunch of twerps.

I considered mapping sampled details of Ben's hut to a digital model to create a virtual set for an idea I had.

It's beyond my abilities but something like that might be possible and give you a simulation of some of the missing pixels.

A good computer model of the costume and sample from the actor's face from better quality footage could tart up the fuzzier frames.

But it will look weird

adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

You bunch of ignorant Idiots! Now I must get rude!

You've pretty much screwed up ANY chance of getting help from anyone here after that.

You come here and say how crap someone's hard work is, seem to demand that someone hand over all the file that jambe used and now talk crap like this?

For your information NONE of the original Jabba footage is available in HD, ANYWHERE apart from, maybe at Skywalker Ranch.. Its all low quality AT BEST. It had to be recreated using multiple sources of varying quality that the best quality isn't even DVD scale as it's mainly from VHS. Upscaling to to HD isn't going to make it look better. If that is what you want then why not just use the footage from Jambe's doc and work you magic? I highly doubt Jambe would be willing to hand over any of the files he has ( even if he even still has the original files now the project is long finished) after you talking trash about his work. Politeness could have gone a long way to achieving you goal.

I know, I just want to cover the CGI-Crap from the Blu-Ray with the actor, leaving everything around the actor from the Blu-Ray footage, plus some upscale and color correction. And I already found someone. :D

well you would have to do a LOT more than just remove Jabba and replace the original actor. You would need upscale the original footage so it would match the blu-ray footage (impossible to do by the way with what is available), remove all the crap mattes they added for the 1997 version (still images with terrible frozen grain and an actor that suddenly pauses for a few frames), create brand new 3D mattes to cover CG Jabba ( a bigger task than they faced in 1997 because of the extra missing sections thanks to CG Jabba being much larger and covering even more of the original background) , track all the sections you need to add these new mattes, rotoscope the original Jabba to place him in the scene, replace the missing sections of Han's fingers & other sections (thanks to the older technique rotoscoping done in 1997 & 2004), Suddenly jump from Blu-Ray footage of Han to much lower quality footage for when he walks behind Jabba,  match the grain between the original and blu-ray footage, colour correct each different video source of original Jabba so it matches perfectly with each section & magically remove all the credit text that covers the original Jabba (that's the only footage known to exist of that section, so good luck with that).

Unless you can magically produce detail that is not there in VHS quality (and in some section even less) footage to bring it up to the blu-ray quality of the footage, then i would not even bother because it's going to look terrible, and all that work would have been for nothing. It would be like getting a crystal clear video and adding a moving blurred blob to it

Thank you very much, these are necessary comments I wanted to read, also when I already knew the half of it. Now I also understand Frink's Diorama Work!

AntcuFaalb said:

benduwan said:

so,near 3 months later...

nothing new here...:-(

is there any news?

Unfortunately, no.

To make matters worse, the hard drive I had the deleted scene files on is officially dead, so I'll need to "acquire" those again.

is this restoration only for the bluray deleted scenes or for the other sources to (dvd,vhs...)?i know,some of them are very short...but it would be cool the leia death star  and boba bespin scene back in the movie.

skywalker89 said:

adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

adywan said:

skywalker89 said:

You bunch of ignorant Idiots! Now I must get rude!

You've pretty much screwed up ANY chance of getting help from anyone here after that.

You come here and say how crap someone's hard work is, seem to demand that someone hand over all the file that jambe used and now talk crap like this?

For your information NONE of the original Jabba footage is available in HD, ANYWHERE apart from, maybe at Skywalker Ranch.. Its all low quality AT BEST. It had to be recreated using multiple sources of varying quality that the best quality isn't even DVD scale as it's mainly from VHS. Upscaling to to HD isn't going to make it look better. If that is what you want then why not just use the footage from Jambe's doc and work you magic? I highly doubt Jambe would be willing to hand over any of the files he has ( even if he even still has the original files now the project is long finished) after you talking trash about his work. Politeness could have gone a long way to achieving you goal.

I now, I just want to cover the CGI-Crap from the Blu-Ray with the actor, leaving everything around the actor from the Blu-Ray footage, plus some upscale and color correction. And I already found someone. :D

well you would have to do a LOT more than just remove Jabba and replace the original actor. You would need upscale the original footage so it would match the blu-ray footage (impossible to do by the way with what is available), remove all the crap mattes they added for the 1997 version (still images with terrible frozen grain and an actor that suddenly pauses for a few frames), create brand new 3D mattes to cover CG Jabba ( a bigger task than they faced in 1997 because of the extra missing sections thanks to CG Jabba being much larger and covering even more of the original background) , track all the sections you need to add these new mattes, rotoscope the original Jabba to place him in the scene, replace the missing sections of Han's fingers & other sections (thanks to the older technique rotoscoping done in 1997 & 2004), Suddenly jump from Blu-Ray footage of Han to much lower quality footage for when he walks behind Jabba,  match the grain between the original and blu-ray footage, colour correct each different video source of original Jabba so it matches perfectly with each section & magically remove all the credit text that covers the original Jabba (that's the only footage known to exist of that section, so good luck with that).

Unless you can magically produce detail that is not there in VHS quality (and in some section even less) footage to bring it up to the blu-ray quality of the footage, then i would not even bother because it's going to look terrible, and all that work would have been for nothing. It would be like getting a crystal clear video and adding a moving blurred blob to it

Thank you very much, these are necessary comments I wanted to read, also when I already knew the half of it. Now I also understand Frink's Diorama Work!

Wait, what?

*random gibber*

*eats a taco and vomits*

TV's Frink said:

skywalker89 said:

adywan said:

[...], remove all the crap mattes they added for the 1997 version (still images with terrible frozen grain and an actor that suddenly pauses for a few frames), create brand new 3D mattes to cover CG Jabba ( a bigger task than they faced in 1997 because of the extra missing sections thanks to CG Jabba being much larger and covering even more of the original background) , track all the sections you need to add these new mattes, [...].

Thank you very much, [...] . Now I also understand Frink's Diorama Work!

Wait, what?

Now I understand, what you want to do with the diorama! xD

TV's Frink said:

I changed my mind, I don't want to help now.

Just because you can't help! xD

I already found someone, who let me use his contacts! xD

skywalker89 said:

TV's Frink said:

skywalker89 said:

adywan said:

[...], remove all the crap mattes they added for the 1997 version (still images with terrible frozen grain and an actor that suddenly pauses for a few frames), create brand new 3D mattes to cover CG Jabba ( a bigger task than they faced in 1997 because of the extra missing sections thanks to CG Jabba being much larger and covering even more of the original background) , track all the sections you need to add these new mattes, [...].

Thank you very much, [...] . Now I also understand Frink's Diorama Work!

Wait, what?

Now I understand, what you want to do with the diorama! xD

Maybe you can explain it to me then.

skywalker89 said:

TV's Frink said:

I changed my mind, I don't want to help now.

Just because you can't help! xD

I already found someone, who let me use his contacts! xD

I thought you wore glasses.

Mr T says :

Just as long as that someone doesn't let you use his contacts to do anything illegal with my bins...