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Leia has her own reasons to be repelled by the notion that her hero/brother is related to the thing that killed her homeworld (the glossing over her reaction to her being his daughter is a giant misstep in this film).
The fact that Alderaan is never mentioned again, and especially not during this key scene always bothered me.
Dammit, you're right. Unfortunately ROTJ is a movie that I dislike more and more every time I watch it, which really hurts considering how much nostalgia I have towards it. The sheer amount of wasted potential is enough for it to be easily the least of the three. The fact that ANH and ESB still hold up to my childhood adoration (and then some) every time I watch is what seals the deal.
amen! Im very fond of ROTJ, but I just feel that Luca$'s attitude for this one was: "This is the last one, lets just throw everything together and get it done chop-chop!" I agree that there was some wasted potential.
I would argue that the exact oposit id possibly true. The way the whole trilogy comes to a climatic, neat and beautifully written conclusion is vastly underestimated.
It could have been very different...
Consider a film like TDKR that while generally good, doesn't wrap up that trilogy very well at all. Batman dies but then doesn't die to keep things open for a sequel. A new Robin character is introduced solely for a sequel setup. Batman does not defeat any of the four antagonists. There is no redemption, no real love story of any consequence etc etc
Or consider BTTF3 (A film I love!!) but that doesn't wrap the story up at all. A brilliant film happens and then there is an emotional scene at the end.
And I've already pointed out elsewhere what a collasal waste of the final chapter of the Spock Trilogy Star Trek 4 is.
ROTJ is a great ending to the OT. In a way it defines the OT because looking back all paths lead to it. It could have just been another film...
It could have been worse, you're right. I'll not argue why ROTJ is a disappointment any longer, all my grievances have either been voiced by my or someone else here or anywhere this argument has waged in the past thirty years.
I will also not argue the merits of TDKR because this is not the place and you clearly misinterpreted the ending. I will also not bother with your other two examples because I agree with you on those. But the main reason I will not discuss those films is because they are not Star Wars. Yes, it could have been worse. But it also could have been MUCH better. To be clear, I love ROTJ. But this is a Star Wars film, and in Star Wars, the galaxy is the limit. There was a million places they could go. Sure, they stuck the conclusion landing better than most. But they still missed conclusive opportunities and, most unfortunate in my opinion, failed to match the amount of original content/concepts/ideas present in the preceding two films.