captainsolo said:
SilverWook said:
Yeah, the LALD SE looks like a VCD at times. :(
The THX DVD of Dr. No has noticeably more compression artifacts seen in ocean waves.
Is it possible some of the earlier 5.1 mixes were derived from 70mm releases? (At least the Moore and Dalton entries.) I'm thinking some of these ought to be preserved. They could certainly co exist with a PCM track synched up to the Blu Rays. Maybe preserve the SE menus too? ;)
I've got the THX Moonraker DVD on the way, and more factory sealed Bond LD's in my future. There is no cure for Laserdisc fever!
DN also has heavy, heavy noise that is not grain.
The early 5.1 mixes should be derived from the original stems as you're indicating, but all are straightforward 4 channel single surround masters. Being always on the technological forefront was never the intent of Cubby Broccoli, and Spy was the first film to not be mono. It is a stereo surround mix, but nowhere is Dolby listed as being applied so I can't say for sure if it was a Dolby release. Moonraker is Dolby stereo, as is everything through TLD, with LTK being Dolby Stereo SR. 70mm was used for some of the films in this era, but not all and it wasn't a primary concern as far as I can tell, so the mixes should be identical to the 35mm.
SilverWook said:
captainsolo said:
These 5.1 mixes will almost certainly trump anything from later on simply due to better compression and greater detail. Better practices because they were made for LD 5.1 which avoids the typical down conversions built into DVD audio. But the UE is the only release of LTK that is fully uncut in Region 1. The others are a rumored PAL German LD and a NTSC Japanese LD but both are full screen.
Is it feasible to patch the missing scenes using the UE? There is a VCD on Yesasia.com, but it's probably full frame...
Yes it would be indeed. The best would be to use the UE video and PCM audio from one of these rumored uncut LDs to patch into the PCM from the US one. The cuts are very minor, but once you know them you notice if they're gone. Primarily it's some body hits and violence, Krest in the depressurization chamber, the cocaine shredder, and a few little dialogue tweaks on cursing IIRC. All in all it's only a minute or two total. The worst is how they re-cut the ending of the tanker scene in order to remove a few seconds of burning. It makes no logical or cinematic sense in the 1989 theatrical version as Bond magically jumps back and forth from the explosion and is very disconcerting as for a brief moment you can't even tell which way is which, which of course detracts from the major climactic moment of the entire film.
This is basically what we're looking at: http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=3129
http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/bbfc_cuts_licence_to_kill.htm
The only releases I'm seeing on LDDB that show runtimes longer than 133 minutes are a U.S. edition at 135 and a Dutch edition at 139. Almost everything else, including the U.S. releases, shows a 133-min runtime. What am I not seeing here?
captainsolo said:
I have a few, let me know what you may need. Have you ever found any with those few errors corrected? I'm starting to think it was a myth. If not I think I'll fill in my SE collection as well. I had been holding out for cheap boxsets.
The box sets are pretty cheap on Amazon, aren't they? At any rate, I just happened to come into possession of a partially completed SE box, the gold one. Which films from that one had the errors and what were they? I can check to see if they were corrected.