Bingowings said:

To be fair Superman 3 was pretty bad but nowhere near as astonishingly bad as Superman 4 and Superman Returns in my book is a much better film than Man Of Steel and not that bad at all.

Nemesis is almost identical to JJ's Star Trek too.

Superman3 is a great action-comedy movie, one of the best, Richard Pryor is hilarious. But as a Superman movie it falls short.

I had issues with MOS but it was action packed, epic and emotional unlike SR. MOS was just too action packed, trim out 30 mins of smashing crashing and it'll be nigh on perfect.

I know Shinzon and Nero have similarities in appearance, actions and general underwhelmingness (Nero is like Spock's nemesis). But the difference is that Shinzon is the central focus of the plot of 'Nemesis'. Where as Nero is mostly in the background and only serves to keep the central plot of our heroes coming together ticking along. If Nero vs Spock had been central to 'Star Trek 2009' I'd agree that it would have failed in the same way and for similar reasons.

btw I was reading a rumour yesterday that Bryan Cranston was going to be Lex Luthor.

Then we'd know-for-a-fact that at least MOS2's villain is going to kick ass. With one caveat, he should in know way... allow himself to be captured and imprisoned in a glass cell before detonating a bomb that destroys The Daily Planet.