Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features — Page 11

So those screenies previously posted are really that awful.  Unbelievable.

I watched Peter Pan tonight and there was a 'making of' featurette that definitely used clips of the film from the same transfer as the first laserdisc.

Included is the clip of Tinker Bell measuring her hips... which has been the topic of some discussion (by me anyway).

Seeing it in motion I still can't tell if we are seeing effects detail that has since been scrubbed out or film/analog noise.

Is there interest in me putting up the clip?

This is the shot I'm referring to:

Early Mary Poppins BD review: http://notonbluray.com/blog/new-mary-poppins-blu-ray/#more-698

Will do, although rips of the old version are still being shared. I'll clarify.

In the next day or two I'm planning on watching a version from the HDTV rip.  There was some logo removal, but that has been improved in what I have.

Unfortunately, it's on a long closed HD site and I don't think it's being shared anywhere else.

SitS HDTV version in any form is probably the answer for anyone wanting HD.

I watched a 720p HDTVrip of SitS with my wife a few weeks ago. We downloaded it from Usenet. It looked excellent; nice and grainy. Also, there was no logo that I could see.

Is this the one you're talking about, Doctor M?

AntcuFaalb said:

I watched a 720p HDTVrip of SitS with my wife a few weeks ago. We downloaded it from Usenet. It looked excellent; nice and grainy. Also, there was no logo that I could see.

Is this the one you're talking about, Doctor M?

Yes and no.  The version I grabbed was from someone disappointed with the remaining artifacts from the logo removal so he upscaled and patched those artifacts from DVD.  It is an impressive job.

Should be a huge difference though.

I have to ask, what are you fixing?  The Blu ray isn't officially out yet.

Since it has already been found, it might be fixed before the final release.  Unless of course it is a deliberate create decision by some guy who (IIRC) didn't work on the film.

Still the worst problem with BDs.  As far as I know nothing can do NLE without a full re-encoding.

Of course you'd still probably need to replace the audio track and repaint a knee.

Has anyone seen a screenshot comparison to the Platinum Edition?  I'm curious how the colors look.

nirbateman said:

I don't mind an encoded BD, at 1080p with 11 MBPS, the results can look perfect and still remain at a reasonable size.

Why not 720p with a higher bitrate? More bpp that way...

Hoping that they fix the issue with Part of Your World at least, since this is otherwise looking like a solid improvement over the awful platinum release. As has been pointed out - Ariel's tail is Ariel again and not green.

Concerning Sleeping Beauty, I do believe the 1997 and 2003 editions are actually one and the same. I own the widescreen 97 VHS which trumpets it as "Fully Restored". I believe the 2003 featurette is actually a laserdisc extra from the 97 release seen here - http://www.disneyinfo.nl/laserdiscdetail.php?film=739

The 2003 just used the same restoration as none of it's packaging claims it to be new. Though i wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't tweaked a bit. I remember renting it years back and noting how similar it was.

I'm told the 08 tends to follow the colors of the 87 transfer, but does have an odd number of issues unique to itself; mainly the green glow on Aurora, the changes in her Briar Rose garb from shot to shot, and the the bright floor when she's revealed unconscious. I've also heard conflicting things from animators. When I asked Ron Dias about it, he said the BD was wildly inaccurate, but I'm forever unsure if he was aware that the restoration wasn't the 97 version. Sadly, I'll now never be able to discuss it further with him like I'd wanted to. Another animator claims the BD is the closest it has ever been.

Amusingly enough, they've announced the Diamond release for next year and stated it will feature yet another full restoration. How many times can you fix a film in so many years?

I'm sorry, but I chuckle at the hand wringing that Disney may have screwed up TLM in the new BD restoration while converting the film to 3D.

What has Disney done before now that suggests anything they put out in Diamond Edition, newly restored or post converted to 3D is going to be worth buying and not completely messed up?

@klingon_jedi - I maintain and continue to maintain that the Platinum Edition is a great transfer of the film.  The colors match the first laserdisc release.

To compare it to the Limited DVD release is a mistake since that series of DVDs is across the board awful.  It was a half hearted poorly managed first foray into DVDs.  I wouldn't need one hand to count the films they got right in that series.

Except for the knee edit and the soundtrack, since fixed in a custom release, there is no reason to doubt its accuracy.  Clements and Musker at least were consulted, which is more than we can say for the BD.

I can't imaging that the one thing they wouldn't insist on is the accuracy of the color of Ariel's tail.

re: Mary Poppins -- it's been my experience that Disney's clean-up is only extreme with their animated features. Pete's Dragon featured minimal DNR as well as I recall.

As for TLM, well I hope those are mistakes but I wouldn't be surprised if they were intentional. I can't help but laugh at people who are calling these SE-level changes, though; for all we know, these could be the result of this remaster being sourced from a different print. Even SW pre-new crawl had variations here and there, after all.