Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD** — Page 50

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SilverWook said:

I've long wondered if Vader had a spare suit stashed away somewhere? Would help explain some of the visual differences between the films.

I think it's important that Vader (as represented by the suit) is totally destroyed before Anakin is free to return at the end in spirit.

I thought that was the point of pyre before Qui-Gon needed one.

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LOL. I totally get this reference.

 

I would hope so, Jenny.

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Bah!

ray_afraid said:

Tobar said:

Harrison Ford successfully bribed $1000 dollars to spill the beans on the new Star Wars.

That was great!

J.J. Adams, you are the best.. :D 

Word on the street is that Disney's planning to release this thing in December of 2015. Way less competition at the box office and more time to finish the movie.

I guess it's too late for them to push it back to May of 2016 (which the traditionalists in all of us would prefer) after spouting a date of 2015 in every single proclamation since the Disney deal was announced back in October. Also, yeah, I guess they like money a lot. Even if May of 2016 is still an empty playing field, it'll fill up fast. December of '15, on the other hand, isn't likely to be crowded with anything other than oscar-bait.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the original film not start shooting until March of '76??? I realize they still need to iron out the script, but whatever happened to all this talk of making it "the old-fashioned way?"

As for box office competition, I would've thought they'd like the idea of releasing Avengers 2 and Ep7 at opposite ends of May, guaranteeing first place for well over a month. I guess spreading things out makes a little more sense, though.

Anyway, nothing official yet, just a rumor.

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I really hope there won't be any old characters coming back as force ghosts. That was one of the things I really liked about Zahn's books - he recognized the stupidity of the scene in ROTJ, where Obi-Wan, instead of being a disembodied voice or a flickering apparition, appeared as a ghost to rest his but on a stone and have a whole expository conversation with Luke and so Zahn had Obi-Wan appear to Luke one last time telling Luke that he's moving on and Luke will have to deal with what's coming on his own.

It really cheapens the death of a character, when you  can just bring them back whenever it's convenient - it kinda worked in ESB, because it was handled pretty tastefully but I think that on the whole, it's a pretty cheap plot device and it would be even worse to use it just to give the dead characters some kind of a cameo. Plus, imagine the horror if they brought Hayden back as Anakin's ghost... Urgh!

Well I just don't see how it worked in ESB and not in ROTJ. I think it worked well overall.

It was only ruined by the Hayden, which is by far the worst change to OT.

Besides, according to the annotated edition, Zahn did it because he wanted Luke to be totally on his own as a Jedi -- and not the last of the old, but the first of the new. It also set up the whole Joruus C'baoth thing, by making Luke absolutely desperate for guidance from another Jedi.

If we start seeing a bunch of force ghosts in the ST, then I won't even bother cause that tells me they have run out of ideas and this won't be anymore original then the PT was. 

The force ghost was a cool concept that Lucas eventually ruined.  It was cool to see Kenobi as a force ghost in ESB to lead Luke to Dagobah and then comment on him leaving to fight Vader.  Then he appears and sits down in Jedi like a real life person???  Then you have Hayden as a young force ghost, but Kenobi and Yoda are old force ghosts in the new ending to Jedi???

This is another example of the more you delve into something mystical like this, the more it loses its luster.  The same with the force, as it was mystical in the OT, and when it was explained in the PT, it opens up all sorts of questions.

I have to say I was hopeful of the ST a few months ago, but I am starting to sour on it now, as I think it will be the same old same old. 

Ben's ghost in ANH and ESB worked as a guide for Luke, to lead him to Yoda and try and encourage him to stay there.

He seemed reluctant to be seen in ESB, preferring the voice in the head routine.

I can imagine a scenario where such an ability could be terrifying if learned by someone like Palpatine.

He could gently guide Jedi novices to their doom while pretending to be Ben or Anakin.

Maybe having the frightening Freddy style reveal of the phantom prune face just as some young Padwan is on the edge of a cliff.

Spookyness was only done once in the whole saga (the cave dream) and that was the dark side messing with Luke's head.

I wouldn't be put off by the use of the idea just by a ROTJ style ghost butt approach to it.

The ST is shaping up to be pretty awesome, if you ignore the BS rumors of force ghosts and Palpatine and such.