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I've been recently playing Prince of Persia, FlashBack: The Quest for Identity and Another World. I've been loving them, though Another World is damn hard sometimes.

I've noticed there's a distinct lack of Cinematic 2D Platformers, so I think I'll try and make one.

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I remember getting killed over and over again on the first few screens of Prince Of Persia (Amiga version).

I'm in a position to play all these things again now.

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Over half way through 2013, and I've been reflecting on my game purchases this year.

I've only bought three games this year, Bioshock Infinite, State of Decay, and The Last of Us. And they have all been absolutely great purchases, and I feel like these three titles could carry me through the remainder of the year, especially with eventual DLC on the way for all three of them. I have beaten all three, but I've really wanted to go back and replay each of them, BSI and TLoU on harder difficulties, but just haven't had the time.

State of Decay has had two major title updates since I last played it, both of which seem to have fixed a whole mess of issues the game had back when I played it. I'm really looking forward to downloading those and enjoying a cleaner smoother play through. There is also suppose to be a "sandbox" DLC coming out for it sometime in the nearish future, I'm interested to see what all that entails. It is already a sandbox game, so how do you make it more sandboxy?

I am, however, considering shelling out for a few titles I've wanted to play for a while now.

Red Dead Redemption

Farcry 3

Borderlands 2

Batman: Arkam Asylum

Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Heavy Rain

Dishonored

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection - I've still never played Snake Eater! What?!

 

But I still have several games on my back log I need to play through:

God of War Trilogy - Made it close to the end of GoW 2, haven't proceeded because I began it on PS2, and now have to restart on PS3 since I don't have the PS2 version any longer.

L.A. Noir - Haven't started

Resistance 1 & 2 - Made it very close to the end of the first one, PS3 broke, backed up all my saves and sent it in to get fixed, all my saves restored fine except for Resistance, so I have to start over. 

Fallout: New Vegas DLC packs - I've got them all, but have only beaten the first one.

Skyrim - Really got into it for a while, loved it. I was right at the end of the main storyline with over forty hours of play time and my game save got corrupted. Was over a year ago, restarted recently, but it is kind of hard to get back into without thinking of how cool my other character was and how much time I already invested in the game. I feel like I am spending hours doing stuff I already did before.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - Started playing it a couple of weeks ago. Only a few hours in, should probably finish it. I just realized recently that I've owned a PS3 for two years and The Last of Us is the very first game I've beaten on it.

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Been playing heavily modded New Vegas. 13 GB of mods if my counting method (Selecting all non-vanilla ESPs and BSA's in the folder, along with folders). Mega fun. About 60 hours in. Chose to side with NCR after a bit of deliberation. Much more enjoyable than my first playthrough, and I have to say I like it better than Fallout 3 in a lot of ways, though it's really to early in the playthrough to say if I like it better.

Took a brief break to play Last Of Us a week ago, that was quite interesting, scarring deaths there. I avoided dieing as much as possible because of how graphic it was. 

Still have a unfinished Half-Life 2 game going, and Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Bioshock are sitting around waiting for me to play.

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Skyrim - Really got into it for a while, loved it. I was right at the end of the main storyline with over forty hours of play time and my game save got corrupted. Was over a year ago, restarted recently, but it is kind of hard to get back into without thinking of how cool my other character was and how much time I already invested in the game. I feel like I am spending hours doing stuff I already did before.

How come you couldn't recover a uncorrupted save? Did you not have multiple saves? Xbox version?

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CP3S said:

Over half way through 2013, and I've been reflecting on my game purchases this year.

I've only bought three games this year, Bioshock Infinite, State of Decay, and The Last of Us. And they have all been absolutely great purchases, and I feel like these three titles could carry me through the remainder of the year, especially with eventual DLC on the way for all three of them. I have beaten all three, but I've really wanted to go back and replay each of them, BSI and TLoU on harder difficulties, but just haven't had the time.

State of Decay has had two major title updates since I last played it, both of which seem to have fixed a whole mess of issues the game had back when I played it. I'm really looking forward to downloading those and enjoying a cleaner smoother play through. There is also suppose to be a "sandbox" DLC coming out for it sometime in the nearish future, I'm interested to see what all that entails. It is already a sandbox game, so how do you make it more sandboxy?

I am, however, considering shelling out for a few titles I've wanted to play for a while now.

Red Dead Redemption

Farcry 3

Borderlands 2

Batman: Arkam Asylum

Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Heavy Rain

Dishonored

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection - I've still never played Snake Eater! What?!

 

But I still have several games on my back log I need to play through:

God of War Trilogy - Made it close to the end of GoW 2, haven't proceeded because I began it on PS2, and now have to restart on PS3 since I don't have the PS2 version any longer.

L.A. Noir - Haven't started

Resistance 1 & 2 - Made it very close to the end of the first one, PS3 broke, backed up all my saves and sent it in to get fixed, all my saves restored fine except for Resistance, so I have to start over. 

Fallout: New Vegas DLC packs - I've got them all, but have only beaten the first one.

Skyrim - Really got into it for a while, loved it. I was right at the end of the main storyline with over forty hours of play time and my game save got corrupted. Was over a year ago, restarted recently, but it is kind of hard to get back into without thinking of how cool my other character was and how much time I already invested in the game. I feel like I am spending hours doing stuff I already did before.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - Started playing it a couple of weeks ago. Only a few hours in, should probably finish it. I just realized recently that I've owned a PS3 for two years and The Last of Us is the very first game I've beaten on it.

Some of those games were a lot of fun, some were quite dull.

Gotta recommend Red Dead Redemption - it was a blast and I still go back to it from time to time. It's a fairly serious game but the multiplayer can be hilarious.

The visuals are a little dated but the controls are decent, the acting is great and the atmosphere is spot-on.

I hope there's an RDR2 in the pipeline over at rockstar.

 

Farcry 3 and Deus Exn were good in places but both disappointed me - and this is from someone who liked Deus Ex 2!

I don't think I'll ever finish Heavy Rain.

LA Noir was boring - i'd expected it to be open like GTA but it isn't. The atmosphere is good but I lost interest after a handful of missions.

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I second the recommendation for Red Dead Redemption. Fantastic game.

Though I have to disagree on L.A. Noire. Love that game. Insanely detailed recreation of 1947 Los Angeles. The attention to detail is insane and the size of the map is very impressive. And pile on top of that classic film noir storytelling and baby, you got a stew goin'.

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Tobar said:


I second the recommendation for Red Dead Redemption. Fantastic game.
Thirded. I need to rebuy that thing.

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Sounds like out of all the games I listed, Red Dead Redemption GOTY edition is the one I ought to get. There was a reason it was at the top of my list.

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valinkrai said:

Still have a unfinished Half-Life 2 game going, and Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Bioshock are sitting around waiting for me to play.

What? Half-Life 2 is one of my all time favorite games, I couldn't stop playing it. How do you quit before the end?

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Skyrim - Really got into it for a while, loved it. I was right at the end of the main storyline with over forty hours of play time and my game save got corrupted. Was over a year ago, restarted recently, but it is kind of hard to get back into without thinking of how cool my other character was and how much time I already invested in the game. I feel like I am spending hours doing stuff I already did before.

How come you couldn't recover a uncorrupted save? Did you not have multiple saves? Xbox version?

Xbox version using a USB drive for a save device, I was switching back and forth between TV's a lot, so keeping them on a USB drive worked well. But then the Xbox told me the drive wasn't formatted. No problem, that happens every now and then when using a flash drive on Xbox, just got to pop it in the computer, copy the Xbox saves off, reformatted it, load them back on. But this time there was no data to be found anywhere, no recoverable data, nothing. I tried several different methods, before finally giving up.

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CP3S said:

 

What? Half-Life 2 is one of my all time favorite games, I couldn't stop playing it. How do you quit before the end?

 

Got bored and lost in the vehicle area. Got lost again later, so I quit for a bit.

Xbox version using a USB drive for a save device, I was switching back and forth between TV's a lot, so keeping them on a USB drive worked well. But then the Xbox told me the drive wasn't formatted. No problem, that happens every now and then when using a flash drive on Xbox, just got to pop it in the computer, copy the Xbox saves off, reformatted it, load them back on. But this time there was no data to be found anywhere, no recoverable data, nothing. I tried several different methods, before finally giving up.

Ah. Your first mistake was getting the Xbox version.

 

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Skyrim - Really got into it for a while, loved it. I was right at the end of the main storyline with over forty hours of play time and my game save got corrupted. Was over a year ago, restarted recently, but it is kind of hard to get back into without thinking of how cool my other character was and how much time I already invested in the game. I feel like I am spending hours doing stuff I already did before.

How come you couldn't recover a uncorrupted save? Did you not have multiple saves? Xbox version?

Xbox version using a USB drive for a save device, I was switching back and forth between TV's a lot, so keeping them on a USB drive worked well. But then the Xbox told me the drive wasn't formatted. No problem, that happens every now and then when using a flash drive on Xbox, just got to pop it in the computer, copy the Xbox saves off, reformatted it, load them back on. But this time there was no data to be found anywhere, no recoverable data, nothing. I tried several different methods, before finally giving up.

Why would using a USB stick be beneficial when switching between TV's?

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doubleofive said:

 

Tobar said:


I second the recommendation for Red Dead Redemption. Fantastic game.
Thirded. I need to rebuy that thing.

 

You NEED to have not sold it in the first place. I still can't believe you did that.

There were some dlc packs that came out for free but the GOTY edition would appear to be the most convenient - apparently it comes with absolutely everything including pre-order bonuses [bonii?]

Just be sure to steer well clear of the Undead Nightmare DLC campaign early on as it contains serious spoilers.

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Tobar said:


I second the recommendation for Red Dead Redemption. Fantastic game.

Though I have to disagree on L.A. Noire. Love that game. Insanely detailed recreation of 1947 Los Angeles. The attention to detail is insane and the size of the map is very impressive. And pile on top of that classic film noir storytelling and baby, you got a stew goin'.


I can second the thoughts on attention to detail. The map is nearly 100% accurate... I recognize some things on the map from today, like old theater marquis (though the businesses below them are obviously no longer movie palaces.)

It was fun but I didn't finish it. Happens a lot to me, actually.

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valinkrai said:

Ah. Your first mistake was getting the Xbox version.

Ah, yes, I love it when some douche thinks he is doing me a service by telling me that I am gaming on inferior equipment because I use consoles instead of a PC.

Thanks, valinkrai. Regardless of the fact that a gaming desktop is a useless waste of space and money to me, since a compact small screen laptop is what I need for important real life things, and that I am more than content doing the very little gaming I do with a nifty big screen TV through a gaming console, and that I could care less about spending countless hours of my life mucking around with dumb mods, it is good to know I am making a mistake and that my gaming experiences are worlds inferior to yours. 

You game on a PC. You are awesome. Superlatively so. Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise.

 

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Davnes007 said:

Why would using a USB stick be beneficial when switching between TV's?

If I'm playing a game on the smaller sized TV in my bedroom, where I usually play, and I think, Hmm, I sure wouldn't mind playing this on the 54'' in the living room right now... I can pull out the USB drive and the game disc, go down stairs, and put them into my roommate's Xbox that is hooked up to the TV in the living room. Later, if my room mate comes home and would like to watch or play something on his one and only TV, I can pull the USB drive and game disc out again, take them back upstairs to my room and continue playing.

Prior to this setup, I used to play games at my girlfriend's place a lot, so I had been using the USB stick setup for game saves for a long time, I'd just keep my profile and my saves on the USB stick, could pull them out and go at anytime and have everything with me. I've only had it get corrupted once before, and it was easy to recover the data. This time I have no idea what happened, but it happens every time I try to keep everything on a USB drive now. I've tried three different drives since then with the same issues resulting. Not sure what is up. Used that method flawlessly for almost three years. The crazy little conspiracy theorist in me says MS is doing it intentionally so that I'll buy Xbox LIVE again and use the cloud save system instead. Incidentally, it is also telling me that gremlins stole my hairbrush.

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CP3S said:

valinkrai said:

Ah. Your first mistake was getting the Xbox version.

Ah, yes, I love it when some douche thinks he is doing me a service by telling me that I am gaming on inferior equipment because I use consoles instead of a PC.

It's more that Bethesda games are inherently better experiences on the PC. I wouldn't say the same comment about games like Mass Effect or Arkham City, which while certainly great on the PC, aren't really getting any real advantages worth of feeling sorry for people who play them off the PC, like not being mega buggy in relative since, or lacking mod support or in the case of a save corrupting, being completely and utterly unable to recover it. Just as I would surely admit that playing Darksiders on the consoles was a much better experience than the PC. Because it totally was. I can certainly understand some people not caring enough about gaming to invest in a PC, though PC gaming is far cheaper in reality what with GPU's being cheap and the prime gaming component, Steam sales and such. Not to mention being able to Alt-tab and come to OT.com check the forums, then go back to a game. Anyway, I'm sorry if I came across as rude, that was not my intention.

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You're cool. Sorry I jumped on you like that. 

I just get tired of the high and mighty attitude of the PC gaming crowd. I've seen Skyrim played on my friend's PC, graphics weren't even maxed out on his system and it looked absolutely gorgeous. I'd love to play it like that, but not at the expense of going out and buying an extra computer I don't need, a comfy desk chair, and a desk. I'd rather just have a small box sitting under my TV that cost me a couple of hundred bucks and lets me play current games for the next five to ten years.

This works for me. If I tally up all the gaming I've done in the last three years, I've probably played a game a few nights a week for one week every other month, and that is probably an over estimate. Yeah, maybe that was confusingly worded, but in short, I rarely ever play games.

If I were really serious about games and wanted the best gaming experience, then yeah, a nice gaming rig connected to a massive TV would be the way to go. But then I'd have to muck around with MS Windows, and who wants to do that? ;)

 

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You're cool. Sorry I jumped on you like that. 

It's okay. I know how easily it is for PC gamers to come off as extremely arrogant. It's really hard to avoid from the perspective of a PC gamer. I don't have a decent PC honestly. It's about as good as a current gen console, though I hope to fix that soon. Ironically enough, Star Wars: Battlefront is probably why I'm a PC gamer, though inevitably due to EA having control of it, Battlefront 3/Reboot will almost certainly not have mods. :( Debating whether I want to get it if it indeed doesn't. Probably will, because I've spent too many E3's desperately hoping for Battlefront III teaser to not get it.

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valinkrai said:

CP3S said:

You're cool. Sorry I jumped on you like that. 

It's okay. I know how easily it is for PC gamers to come off as extremely arrogant. It's really hard to avoid from the perspective of a PC gamer.

The thing PC gamers don't get is, just about anyone who is smart enough to play games already knows the advantages of PC gaming. It isn't some closely guarded secret they need to go out into the world and evangelize about. There are advantages and disadvantages to both PC and consoles, and from there it just has to do with personal factors.

I get the impression PC gamers genuinely think they are doing the world a great service by announcing how much better PC gaming is and how poor of an experience console gaming is.

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I play PC games, but I'd rather play a game designed to work on my system rather than trying to upgrade my system to play a game.

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valinkrai said:

CP3S said:

You're cool. Sorry I jumped on you like that. 

It's okay. I know how easily it is for PC gamers to come off as extremely arrogant. It's really hard to avoid from the perspective of a PC gamer.

The thing PC gamers don't get is, just about anyone who is smart enough to play games already knows the advantages of PC gaming. It isn't some closely guarded secret they need to go out into the world and evangelize about. There are advantages and disadvantages to both PC and consoles, and from there it just has to do with personal factors.

I get the impression PC gamers genuinely think they are doing the world a great service by announcing how much better PC gaming is and how poor of an experience console gaming is.

I hear about the expense of a gaming PC far too often for that to be true. People getting excited about the Xbox One when the reality is for 500 dollars you could build a better PC and not have to pay 5 dollars a month. Literally the only relevant factor in the decision if you indeed realize the advantages of PC gaming is exclusives. Which admittedly, will probably get me to eventually get a WiiU and PS4. Obviously, this is from the perspective of someone interested in the next generation of gaming. For casual players interested in current, it might be cheaper to get a 360 than build a rig like mine, using a 9800 card or something. I don't know.

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I play PC games, but I'd rather play a game designed to work on my system rather than trying to upgrade my system to play a game.

This definitely makes me happy about next gen consoles/PC. x86 architecture everywhere. Except WiiU. Porting should be easier, since it's all the same on the system level. 

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Davnes007 said:

Why would using a USB stick be beneficial when switching between TV's?

... I can pull out the USB drive and the game disc, go down stairs, and put them into my roommate's Xbox that is hooked up to the TV in the living room....

Okay. I get it now. You're switching between TV's AND Xbox's.

:)

Actually, after I posted my question, it occurred to me that that might be what you were doing.

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valinkrai said:

CP3S said:

valinkrai said:

CP3S said:

You're cool. Sorry I jumped on you like that. 

It's okay. I know how easily it is for PC gamers to come off as extremely arrogant. It's really hard to avoid from the perspective of a PC gamer.

The thing PC gamers don't get is, just about anyone who is smart enough to play games already knows the advantages of PC gaming. It isn't some closely guarded secret they need to go out into the world and evangelize about. There are advantages and disadvantages to both PC and consoles, and from there it just has to do with personal factors.

I get the impression PC gamers genuinely think they are doing the world a great service by announcing how much better PC gaming is and how poor of an experience console gaming is.

I hear about the expense of a gaming PC far too often for that to be true. People getting excited about the Xbox One when the reality is for 500 dollars you could build a better PC and not have to pay 5 dollars a month. Literally the only relevant factor in the decision if you indeed realize the advantages of PC gaming is exclusives.

"Literally the only..."? Well that is simply not true. Maybe I want to just rent games, play one over a weekend every now and then and return it when I'm done. Or maybe I want to bust through every game that comes out using a service like gamefly. Maybe I just want to be able to throw a disc in the console and be playing my game without long installation or loading times. Maybe I appreciate their simplicity and ease of you. 

I can see why you think that, because you are viewing this from your own perspective and what works best for you. But everybody is different.

Yeah, some people are going to go out and pay $500 for an Xbox One, and many others are going to wait a few years for it to hit the $200 mark. What gaming PC could I have bought back in 2008 for $200 that would allow me to seamlessly play PC versions of all those console games released this year?

 

 

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Owning a PS3 and having used it very little, I decided I needed to check out some of these exclusives that PS3 fans are always on about.

I've played through most of the first Resistance: Fall of Man, which was once the PS3 exclusive I was most excited about being able to play when I got my PS3. I found it underwhelming and to be a really, really basic shooter, I still haven't beaten it. I hear the second one is a lot better, maybe I'll just skip ahead. Killzone 2 is kind of the same way, pretty basic FPS, nothing new or special at all, haven't played Killzone 3 yet though.

After beating The Last of Us, I decided to give Uncharted: Drake's Fortune a go. It is actually a pretty crappy game. A lame cliched one liner smart-ass hero who gets pretty annoying, endless hoards of bad guys nonsensically popping up everywhere and one of the worst duck and cover systems I've encountered in a third person game, basic Tomb Raider-esque puzzles and tedious jumping/climbing sequences.

There is absolutely nothing special or groundbreaking about this game. It doesn't do anything this sort of game hasn't done before. How is this such a highly acclaimed series? Maybe the second and third game in the series just really go all out and turn this into something amazing? I heard they are really short, so I am going to just keep going with it and work my way to the second one, which everyone says is the best.

 

My experience with PS3 exclusives so far has made me really glade I bought a 360 back in 2008. I would have missed out on Halo, Bioshock, and Left 4 Dead, instead getting crummy Tomb Raider clones and generic first person shooters.