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Warbler
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3-Aug-2013, 5:06 PM

Mrebo said:

Do we know who he was referring to and why?

did you watch the video I linked to????   

Mrebo said:

If it is okay for black people to use the word and he was using it in the same way, why should it be considered worse?

that is a stupid and ignorant thing to say.   I never said it is ok for black people to use the word.  No one in here said that. So I don't know where you got that idea.  I personally think no one should be using it.   However that doesn't mean that it is the same whether the word comes out of the black person's mouth or a white person's mouth.  It isn't.   Anyone that knows and understands the history of racism and slavery and discrimination in country would know that.  

The word is what the slave owners/overseers used to refer to their slaves.  It is obvious considering the history of the word, that it is different when a black person uses it as compared to a white person.   For one thing when I hear a white person use it, the racist detectors go off.   Obviously the same is not true when I hear a black person use it.  When someone uses that word, it tell us something about them.   But tt doesn't tell us the same thing when spoken black a person that is does when spoken by a white person.

 

Mrebo said:

I was thinking about how it is said people are reclaiming a word (like the n-word or "queer") or taking away its power to hurt by using it.

I haven't heard this said at all.   I personally wish the word would just disappear for our vocabulary all together.   There is no reason to justify the existence of that word.  It is an extremely offensive term and I think the world would be better off without it.

Mrebo said:

Perhaps it is the altered definition of the word (thanks to the adoption of many blacks) that Cooper was using. I hear young black guys using it constantly.

please refer to my comments above about how it is different when a white person uses as compared to a black person.

Mrebo said:

My thought is that nobody should be using it,

agreed.

Mrebo said:

that the usage of the word by many blacks is simply wallowing in its negativity. Leaving permissible usage only for those who were historical targets of a word is a sort of sociological impediment.

perhaps.

Mrebo said:

If we are really going to neuter or reclaim the word, whites should be using it, prolifically.  We should use it against whites and blacks. We could use it in a friendly or a disparaging manner.

totally disagree here.   the history of the word, renders it impossible to use against whites in the same way it is used against black.    I think the better way would be for everyone to just stop using the word entirely.

Mrebo said:

I think Cooper really is only upset because he is white and got caught.

yes.

Mrebo said:

I don't have evidence he is a racist,

um, yeah we do.  that fact that he used the word is evidence that he is a racist.  In addition, he used the word to insult some black people he was angry at.  I don't think it just slipped out in a moment of temporary insanity.  He meant to use it. I don't it was the first time he used that word.  I think in private he uses the word all the time.  

Mrebo said:

any more than the blacks who use the word.

it is if we are talking about being racist against blacks. 

Mrebo said:

The n-word has taken on a broader meaning and I wouldn't be surprised if that is the sense in which he used it.

I know of no broader meaning that ugly word has taken on.    And anyone what watched to video would know that he wasn't using the way a black person uses it.