xaoshaen said:
I got a copy of Harmy's Despecialized Edition of Star Wars and it was amazing. I'd love to grab a copy of Empire if anyone has a myspleen invite they'd be willing to send my way.
Thanks!
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Got it! Thanks, benduwan.
I could use a myspleen invite too. That would be super. THanks in advance to anyone who helps me.
MarblesMike said:
I could use a myspleen invite too. That would be super. THanks in advance to anyone who helps me.
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I think this is awesome! would love an invite too, please.
Harmy said:
http://uloz.to/xu6kskTd/hoth-test-compar-mkv
OK, here's the comparison video. The color correction is just a temporary, one setting for the whole clip kind of deal but you'll see there's much more going on here than just color correction.
Love the restored original compositing. Really looking forward to ESB:DE 2.0! =D
Hi ! I´d really apreciate, if possible, a myspleen invite as well. Had to delete my ESB despecialized files from computer and after cleaning a lot of space would like to download again. Many thanks in advance !!
Solved, thanks a lot to my saviour :)
I wouldn't have sent you one if I knew that you asked here as well :p
Do yourself a favour Harmy, and update your first post to point peoples to the Off Topic Spleen thread.
OK, so while I'm waiting for hairy_hen to have the audio files ready for me, I started doing some work on ESB.
Now, here's the plan for ESB (and consequently for Jedi as well):
ESB and ROTJ v1.0's picture quality now seems horribly inadequate compared to SW v2.x, mainly because of the encoding but also because of some black level issues and stuff like that, so after the first color correction pass, I was originally gonna do a quick v1.5 AVCHD, which would have had just the v1.0 despecializations but new color correction and the BD as a source as well as far superior encoding, like the new versions of SW to have an equally high picture quality version out there until v2.0 is done.
But then I thought that it may be better to do just a little more than that, like redo the few shots I'm quite unhappy with in v1.0 from scratch and despecialize a few more still obvious SE changes and call this version a v2.0, because then I can make the definitive version be a v2.5 and have the version numbering be the same as with SW, which could help avoid unnecessary confusion.
What do you think?
^ Hell yes!
“It’s a lot of fun… it’s a lot of fun to watch Star Wars.” – Bill Moyers
As long as all the intermediate versions wouldn't slow down your progress toward the final product, I'm okay with it. But if it would end up slowing things down, I'd say plow straight ahead to the Blu-ray.
I would say go ahead and do the best you can now. Call 2.0 as a test file for all of us to view and comment on incase there are things you could improve or things you may have perhaps missed. Then the final public version will be 2.5
What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.
corellian77 said:
^ Hell yes!
Ditto!
Of course, Mavimao has a point as well. Do your quick changes for a 2.0 version then anything you or the community catches can be updated for the 2.5 release.
“Evacuate ...in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.”
Well, that's the point really - v2.0 could be done in like a month and serve as a kind of workprint while at the same time it would be a full-fledged release to replace v1.0 - getting it to the same level of despecialization as SW v2.5 will probably take much longer.
And it wouldn't really slow me down at all, except for the time it takes to render the AVCHD (v2.0 would in this case probably only be an AVCHD) because everything I would be doing, I'd have to do for a full blown v2.5 version anyway.
Just be careful about setting those mileposts up in advance. When you planned SW 2.0, you didn't know there'd be a 2.1 or 2.5 per se. Those revisions were essentially created by problems found that were not planned for.
So if your first ESB with completely-revised despecialization is 2.5, what's to say this version won't also have some unplanned fixes requiring future iterations? I know you're learning a lot as you go, and ESB might therefore go more according to plan, but still... seems safest to target something less than 2.5 just to give some wiggle room. Screw consistent versioning.
Exactly.
Yeah, you have *my* vote! Empire is my favorite out of the OT and I'd love to see it in a 2.x version.
“Evacuate ...in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.”
I think this makes sense. The major version number corresponds to your use of a better source. 1.x: broadcast. All the 2.x releases: Blu-Ray. So 2.0 would be your first release using the Blu-Ray source and 2.1+ would be refinements.
And then some day 3.0 would be new 35mm captures or maybe even a future OT release by Disney/Lucas, which will of course be imperfect somehow and the perfectionist in you will still have to tweak. :)
Sounds awesome, Harmy. I'm sure we'd all be happy with whatever route you decide to take, but my vote would be for intermediate releases, ie, start with the quicker 2.0 "workprint," release it, get feedback from OT.com, etc., then work on perfecting it to make 2.5 (which like you said could take a very long time).
Is there any chance that you could for example add a text to the black bar area for let's say first 30 seconds telling that it's not the final version? Just to avoid all the discussions "I have downloaded a torrent form site X, which version is it?"
I think the credits-after-the-credits cover the "which version?" issue pretty well. I personally wouldn't want "draft version" put over any part of the video on a full release, even if it was a draft. It'd be too distracting for those who want to enjoy it.
Harmy said:
Well, that's the point really - v2.0 could be done in like a month and serve as a kind of workprint while at the same time it would be a full-fledged release to replace v1.0 - getting it to the same level of despecialization as SW v2.5 will probably take much longer.
In my opinion SW v2.0 was the version that definitely put the project on a larger scale. Don't get me wrong - all further perfectionism is fine too, but if your capable of creating a version of TESB which is on par with SW v2.0 within one or two months, that would be awesome.
I wish there were some way to get back the detail that was scrubbed away in the '04 version. The only problem is that practically every version we have is either excessively DVNR'ed or too noisy to use.
I’m just here because I’m driving tonight.
The '04 version isn't really suffering from any kind of heavy DVNR. It has many flaws but with the exception of a few shots, DVNR isn't really one of them.
Well, Lowry did go through the trouble of removing all those pesky stars for us...