Info: Which HD-DVD is better than Blu-Ray? — Page 4

Chewtobacca said:

dvdmike said:It barely resolves over 720 in detail, it is really bad 

Do you agree that the HD DVD is better?

Exact same craptastic encode

What about Backdraft?  I just received it and I'm excited to watch it on HD-DVD.

:)

or dante's peak

Jetrell Fo said:

What about Backdraft?  I just received it and I'm excited to watch it on HD-DVD.

:)

Will dig and look, the audio is still the ass remix tho

dvdmike said:

Chewtobacca said:

dvdmike said:It barely resolves over 720 in detail, it is really bad 

Do you agree that the HD DVD is better?

Exact same craptastic encode

 

It can't be that bad.  I just skimmed through a bunch of blu ray reviews and they all say that the video quality is great.

dvdmike said:

Jetrell Fo said:

What about Backdraft?  I just received it and I'm excited to watch it on HD-DVD.

:)

Will dig and look, the audio is still the ass remix tho

If the LD has a PCM track, that would be a preferred audio mix?

stretch009 said:

dvdmike said:

Chewtobacca said:

dvdmike said:It barely resolves over 720 in detail, it is really bad 

Do you agree that the HD DVD is better?

Exact same craptastic encode

 

It can't be that bad.  I just skimmed through a bunch of blu ray reviews and they all say that the video quality is great.

 

 

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

Jetrell Fo said:

What about Backdraft?  I just received it and I'm excited to watch it on HD-DVD.

:)

Will dig and look, the audio is still the ass remix tho

If the LD has a PCM track, that would be a preferred audio mix?

I need to hear it but it may be closer if not the Dolby SR mix 

dvdmike said:

stretch009 said:

dvdmike said:

Chewtobacca said:

dvdmike said:It barely resolves over 720 in detail, it is really bad 

Do you agree that the HD DVD is better?

Exact same craptastic encode

 

It can't be that bad.  I just skimmed through a bunch of blu ray reviews and they all say that the video quality is great.

 

 

Please describe the image you attempted to post since I can't see it.

Batman facepalm, if we all went on what reviewers said this forum would be very quiet 

dvdmike said:

Batman facepalm, if we all went on what reviewers said this forum would be very quiet 

Fair enough.

it's a soft-pulldown. run the video through eac3to and it will remove it for you. i highly recommend eac3to for the process from hd-dvd to bd. eac3to can read the structure and that makes joining audio/video files + removing the pulldown very easy.

Echo3 said:

Something I learned while ripping my HDDVDs.... theyre all encoded at 29.97 FPS.  I never new that about HDDVD.  

I found that out when I ripped mine 

Which program should I use to watch my HD DVDs? I have ArcSoft Total Media Theater 6 installed. I had to junk my old XBOX 360 HD DVD add-on player since my front USB ports bricked it.

Of course I'm interested in converting the video to Blu-ray with the DTS-HD MA or whichever tracks.

I have:

The Adventures of Robin Hood; Backdraft; Batman Begins; Black Rain; BLADE RUNNER: 5-Disc; The Bourne Identity; The Bourne Supremacy; The Bourne Ultimatum; Brotherhood of the Wolf (UK); Bullitt; Carlito's Way; Charlie and the Chocolate Factory; DragonHeart; DUNE; FACE/OFF; Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas; Field of Freams; The Frighteners; THE GAME; The Italian Job; Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior; Mission: Impossible; Mission: Impossible 2; Mission: Impossible III: 2-Disc; SERENITY; Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow; Sleepy Hollow; Sneakers; The Sting; The Thing; TRANSFORMERS; The Untouchables; V for Vendetta.

The Blu-ray's I upgraded to, including the titles I used to own on HD DVD (There are many which I've forgotten if I used to own them on DVD or HD DVD):

2001: A Space Odyssey; 12 Monkeys; The Bourne Trilogy; Carlito's Way; CASINO; The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black; DUNE; THE GAME (Criterion); KING KONG (2005); Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (Original and Remastered); Mission: Impossible (USA & Norway); Mission: Impossible 2 (USA & Norway); Mission: Impossible III: 2-Disc (USA & Norway); SERENITY; Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow; The Sting; The Thing (UK); TRANSFORMERS...

How about THE THING HD DVD unmettled video with the lossless audio track from the Blu-ray on a BD25? Same for Apollo 13 and dozens of others. No need for menus. All that's needed is to take the HD DVD video, rejigg it to Blu-ray format, grab the lossless audio, and then retime it to the video. Convert to Blu-ray format folders and then as an ISO.

So which Blu-rays are better than the HD DVD for better film grain reproduction including The Thing, Appolo 13, DragonHeart, etc.? Should also count if the Blu-ray has differing versions of a title via seamless branching. i.e. American Gangster, Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick; King Kong; (Dunno what else).

EDIT: TROY: Theatrical Cut is only on HD DVD so there's a preservation opportunity there.

2001: A Space Odyssey Blu-ray disc has a LPCM track boasting 6.9 MB/ps compared to the HD DVDs Dolby TrueHD track. So Uncompressed audio > Lossless audio.

FremenDar007 said:

Which program should I use to watch my HD DVDs? I have ArcSoft Total Media Theater 6 installed. I had to junk my old XBOX 360 HD DVD add-on player since my front USB ports bricked it.

Of course I'm interested in converting the video to Blu-ray with the DTS-HD MA or whichever tracks.

I have:

The Adventures of Robin Hood; Backdraft; Batman Begins; Black Rain; BLADE RUNNER: 5-Disc; The Bourne Identity; The Bourne Supremacy; The Bourne Ultimatum; Brotherhood of the Wolf (UK); Bullitt; Carlito's Way; Charlie and the Chocolate Factory; DragonHeart; DUNE; FACE/OFF; Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas; Field of Freams; The Frighteners; THE GAME; The Italian Job; Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior; Mission: Impossible; Mission: Impossible 2; Mission: Impossible III: 2-Disc; SERENITY; Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow; Sleepy Hollow; Sneakers; The Sting; The Thing; TRANSFORMERS; The Untouchables; V for Vendetta.

 

 

The Blu-ray's I upgraded to, including the titles I used to own on HD DVD (There are many which I've forgotten if I used to own them on DVD or HD DVD):

2001: A Space Odyssey; 12 Monkeys; The Bourne Trilogy; Carlito's Way; CASINO; The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black; DUNE; THE GAME (Criterion); KING KONG (2005); Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (Original and Remastered); Mission: Impossible (USA & Norway); Mission: Impossible 2 (USA & Norway); Mission: Impossible III: 2-Disc (USA & Norway); SERENITY; Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow; The Sting; The Thing (UK); TRANSFORMERS...

 

How about THE THING HD DVD unmettled video with the lossless audio track from the Blu-ray on a BD25? Same for Apollo 13 and dozens of others. No need for menus. All that's needed is to take the HD DVD video, rejigg it to Blu-ray format, grab the lossless audio, and then retime it to the video. Convert to Blu-ray format folders and then as an ISO.

 

So which Blu-rays are better than the HD DVD for better film grain reproduction including The Thing, Appolo 13, DragonHeart, etc.? Should also count if the Blu-ray has differing versions of a title via seamless branching. i.e. American Gangster, Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick; King Kong; (Dunno what else).

 

EDIT: TROY: Theatrical Cut is only on HD DVD so there's a preservation opportunity there.

2001: A Space Odyssey Blu-ray disc has a LPCM track boasting 6.9 MB/ps compared to the HD DVDs Dolby TrueHD track. So Uncompressed audio > Lossless audio.

King Kong is only theatrical on HD-DVD.  I have Apollo 13 on HD-DVD and it looks freeking awesome.

You might want to try using ClownBD.  It might make some of your work easier?  I used it for the first time yesterday to take Bluray video of Event Horizon so that I could mux our DTS Theatrical audio to it ..... it was quite awesome to hear it that way.

Jetrell Fo said:

FremenDar007 said:

Which program should I use to watch my HD DVDs? I have ArcSoft Total Media Theater 6 installed. I had to junk my old XBOX 360 HD DVD add-on player since my front USB ports bricked it.

Of course I'm interested in converting the video to Blu-ray with the DTS-HD MA or whichever tracks.

I have:

The Adventures of Robin Hood; Backdraft; Batman Begins; Black Rain; BLADE RUNNER: 5-Disc; The Bourne Identity; The Bourne Supremacy; The Bourne Ultimatum; Brotherhood of the Wolf (UK); Bullitt; Carlito's Way; Charlie and the Chocolate Factory; DragonHeart; DUNE; FACE/OFF; Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas; Field of Freams; The Frighteners; THE GAME; The Italian Job; Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior; Mission: Impossible; Mission: Impossible 2; Mission: Impossible III: 2-Disc; SERENITY; Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow; Sleepy Hollow; Sneakers; The Sting; The Thing; TRANSFORMERS; The Untouchables; V for Vendetta.

 

 

The Blu-ray's I upgraded to, including the titles I used to own on HD DVD (There are many which I've forgotten if I used to own them on DVD or HD DVD):

2001: A Space Odyssey; 12 Monkeys; The Bourne Trilogy; Carlito's Way; CASINO; The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black; DUNE; THE GAME (Criterion); KING KONG (2005); Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (Original and Remastered); Mission: Impossible (USA & Norway); Mission: Impossible 2 (USA & Norway); Mission: Impossible III: 2-Disc (USA & Norway); SERENITY; Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow; The Sting; The Thing (UK); TRANSFORMERS...

 

How about THE THING HD DVD unmettled video with the lossless audio track from the Blu-ray on a BD25? Same for Apollo 13 and dozens of others. No need for menus. All that's needed is to take the HD DVD video, rejigg it to Blu-ray format, grab the lossless audio, and then retime it to the video. Convert to Blu-ray format folders and then as an ISO.

 

So which Blu-rays are better than the HD DVD for better film grain reproduction including The Thing, Appolo 13, DragonHeart, etc.? Should also count if the Blu-ray has differing versions of a title via seamless branching. i.e. American Gangster, Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick; King Kong; (Dunno what else).

 

EDIT: TROY: Theatrical Cut is only on HD DVD so there's a preservation opportunity there.

2001: A Space Odyssey Blu-ray disc has a LPCM track boasting 6.9 MB/ps compared to the HD DVDs Dolby TrueHD track. So Uncompressed audio > Lossless audio.

King Kong is only theatrical on HD-DVD.  I have Apollo 13 on HD-DVD and it looks freeking awesome.

You might want to try using ClownBD.  It might make some of your work easier?  I used it for the first time yesterday to take Bluray video of Event Horizon so that I could mux our DTS Theatrical audio to it ..... it was quite awesome to hear it that way.

Do I need to use anything so the HD DVD add-on player will be recognized by AnyDVD HD? I know about King Kong since it was a freebie with the original HD DVD add-on I bought. Since upgraded it to Blu-ray a couple years ago.

As per mentioned, would be nice to use the DNR/EE Blu-ray versions of titles and substitute the video from the HD DVD but still use the lossless audio from the Blu-ray. All would have to do is synch them. Any recommended program for Windows x64 to extract Uncompressed and Lossless audio from Blu-rays?

^Should be used for The Sting; DragonHeart; Apollo 13; The Thing; The Mummy; The Mummy Returns; what other titles? The Big Lebowski is fine on Blu-ray from Italy, Army of Darkness from Germany; and other imports.

Should we have a Project where we use the video, untempered but reformatted for Blu, from HD DVD but the lossless audio from the Blu-ray? HD DVD to Blu-ray on BD25s. What about the menus, extras and subtitles being converted?

When talking menus and such, I am NOT your guy.  LOL.  Your drive should be fine with AnyDVD HD.  As for ripping just the audio, I believe ClownBD can do that as well.

http://tinyurl.com/qdjwpwl

http://tinyurl.com/3qtwvxp

I hope this helps some.

Jetrell Fo said:

When talking menus and such, I am NOT your guy.  LOL.  Your drive should be fine with AnyDVD HD.  As for ripping just the audio, I believe ClownBD can do that as well.

http://tinyurl.com/qdjwpwl

http://tinyurl.com/3qtwvxp

I hope this helps some.

When I extract the lossless audio, I'll also extract the "core" track part of it too.

I have my computer set-up as Plug and Play in the BIOS for new hardware. Should Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit automatically recognise the HD DVD add-on player when I buy the new one? Before the old one bricked itself, I was able to watch scores of HD DVDs just through the add-on and my computer.

I don't see why not.  It show as an external drive.

Flexicon9,
Region B is for the UK for Blu-ray disc as Blu-ray only has three Region codes compared to the 6-8 which DVD has.