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I remember for a while every Bond related game got slagged off for not being Goldeneye N64.

In my scooping up of the lowest price boxless games disc I've actually found a lot of enjoyment to be had from TWINE PS1, Nightfire Gamecube, Everything Or Nothing (PS2) and Rogue Agent (Xbox).

They sit in my Metal Gear Solid boxes nice and snug and while not the best gaming experience in the world for £4 the lot not to be sniffed at.

Has anyone thought of doing a fan edit of the film Goldeneye using the Dave Arnold score from the game remake? 

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Bingowings said:

Has anyone thought of doing a fan edit of the film Goldeneye using the Dave Arnold score from the game remake? 

Hmm... was that score any good? I know some members were kicking around the idea of making a John Barry edit but that was superseded by an NSNA edit, of similar changes.

Speaking of games, I remember the FRWL game being enjoyable, if not just to hear an old Connery delivering his old lines...

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I refuse to enter the current generation of consoles (let alone the upcoming next generation) so I'm in no position to play the game but the rendition of theme is in my book slightly better than Tina Turner's and I'm a big fan of early Tina.

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I was very happy to hear that the next James Bond film will NOT be directed by "Skyfall" director Sam Mendes. 

 "Mendes had hinted that he would direct Bond 24, however in March 2013, he announced he would not direct the 24th Bond film in order to focus on stage work."

Source =  http://www.hitfix.com/news/skyfall-director-sam-mendes-likely-to-return-for-next-james-bond-film

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FanFiltration said:

I was very happy to hear that the next James Bond film will NOT be directed by "Skyfall" director Sam Mendes. 

 "Mendes had hinted that he would direct Bond 24, however in March 2013, he announced he would not direct the 24th Bond film in order to focus on stage work."

Source =  http://www.hitfix.com/news/skyfall-director-sam-mendes-likely-to-return-for-next-james-bond-film

Why are you happy to hear this?

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Just watched Skyfall the second time. Copying The Dark Knight still shines through the whole movie, even more so than for the first time. Even the music. It's a very similar movie to watch, too. It's good to watch it but it's not something you pick up off the shelf to see it many times again, I think. Kinda like Nolan's Batman movies. They're not fun, the feel is almost documantary-like. For the future I hope some fun would come back to Bonds, not Moonraker fun, but Connery fun. Craig said that Austin Powers killed the fun from Bond films, I really hope not.

I'd like to see a more adventuristic Bond next. Enough with the gloomy stuff, I'd like to see another Licence to Kill type of film. A badass yet colorful and entertaining film. Also the film should be more Bond-centric, Skyfall took probably over 30 minutes to set up the whole "what happens to M and MI6" thing. Less extras, more Bond. And more Bond girls, Skyfall didn't really have any (Moneypenny and some nobody who soon gets killed, blah). Another 30 minutes probably went to telling how old stuff is better in different ways throughout the movie. We got it! Now how about making a Bond similar to the old ones, not this kind of tribute movie.

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LexX said:

I'd like to see a more adventuristic Bond next. Enough with the gloomy stuff, I'd like to see another Licence to Kill type of film.

you just contradicted yourself.  License to Kill was just about the darkest Bond movie to that point.

LexX said:

Now how about making a Bond similar to the old ones, not this kind of tribute movie.

License to Kill is not similar to the old ones.

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What kills modern Bond films starting with The World Is Not Enough, is how M based they are. Not saying it should stay with one mold, but come on, I start to nod off when ever Bond is in MI6.

That's just my opinion.

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Warbler said:

LexX said:

I'd like to see a more adventuristic Bond next. Enough with the gloomy stuff, I'd like to see another Licence to Kill type of film.

you just contradicted yourself.  License to Kill was just about the darkest Bond movie to that point.

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Now how about making a Bond similar to the old ones, not this kind of tribute movie.

License to Kill is not similar to the old ones.

I didn't. Licence to Kill isn't gloomy. It's dark, and ahead of it's time in that way, but it's not "terrorism is everywhere, everything is colorless except exotic new places, Bond has a darker side" etc.

To me, Licence to Kill is the last one of the old ones. It's also more similar to the very first movies than newer films.

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What kills modern Bond films starting with The World Is Not Enough, is how M based they are. Not saying it should stay with one mold, but come on, I start to nod off when ever Bond is in MI6.

That's just my opinion.

Agreed. I didn't need the whole story how M got replaced in Skyfall. It may seem okay for first viewing but I don't need to see it, say, after 20 years when the cast is probably replaced again. Too much "oh, you're *long pause* Q", "nice to meet you, *long pause* Moneypenny", "that's cool... *long pause* ...M".

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LexX said:

Warbler said:

LexX said:

I'd like to see a more adventuristic Bond next. Enough with the gloomy stuff, I'd like to see another Licence to Kill type of film.

you just contradicted yourself.  License to Kill was just about the darkest Bond movie to that point.

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Now how about making a Bond similar to the old ones, not this kind of tribute movie.

License to Kill is not similar to the old ones.

I didn't. Licence to Kill isn't gloomy. It's dark, and ahead of it's time in that way, but it's not "terrorism is everywhere, everything is colorless except exotic new places, Bond has a darker side" etc.

To me, Licence to Kill is the last one of the old ones. It's also more similar to the very first movies than newer films.

I always thought Living Daylights was the last of the old ones.

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EyeShotFirst said:

What kills modern Bond films starting with The World Is Not Enough, is how M based they are. Not saying it should stay with one mold, but come on, I start to nod off when ever Bond is in MI6.

That's just my opinion.

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The difference between TLD and LTK is simple.

TLD is more Richard Maibaum's writing, and due to a Guild strike LTK is more Producer/co-writer Michael G. Wilson's writing. Additionally there were major budget cuts on LTK.

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TLD is okay but it's missing something. It's not bad but it's lacking. Similar to the recent ones, like QOS. Okay to watch but meh. LTK is one of my personal favorites, it probably is in my top5. I'm a fan of 80's Miami/drug scene kind of things.

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the 80's Miami/drug scene doesn't seem very Bondish to me.  Bond is a spy, not a narc.

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Warbler said:

the 80's Miami/drug scene doesn't seem very Bondish to me.  Bond is a spy, not a narc.

It isn't. But this time... it's personal.

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So was Diamonds are Forever for about 5 minutes :P

I have yet to see LTK but I dig the theme song. Considering Living Daylights is a personal favorite among the more serious Bond films, I'd probably enjoy that too.

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LTK was a nice diversion from the typical Bond foils meglomaniac's outlandish plot. I appreciate it even more now than when I first saw it, especially how 007 slowly makes Sanchez distrust almost everyone around him.

There are times I think perhaps the iguana was really in charge, and Sanchez was merely his minion. ;)

The text on the 1990 Fox widescreen Laserdisc jacket sounds so certain that Dalton would return. *sigh*

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SilverWook said:

There are times I think perhaps the iguana was really in charge, and Sanchez was merely his minion. ;)

LOL. Loved the iguana too!

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Warbler said:

the 80's Miami/drug scene doesn't seem very Bondish to me.  Bond is a spy, not a narc.

Agree with this. I like LTK all right especially the ending scene but definitely think its not that Bond-ish. Really like TLD, just for Dalton's best performance (and since I think he's the best Bond, therefore, the single best Bond performance). That feels like the last of the old kind of tone to me. Pity it didn't have stronger villains and loses focus during the Third Act.

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I was thinking a lot about Bond today, specifically the timeline issue.  I'm sure most of you are familiar with the issues in the timeline.  Are the new movies prequels?  Are they set after?  What is the chronological order of events?  I'm in the party that thinks the release order is the chronological order of the story.  There are two theories in this party.  1: All of the actors are the same person.  This presents obvious story and continuity issues that I won't go into.  2.  James Bond is a codename that each new 007 agent is assigned.  Again, obvious issues to anyone who knows the movies well.   After a long time of wrecking my brain thinking, I've come up with a third theory that works as a compromise to the two above:  They are all different people, but they don't know that.  Now, this is very Jason Bourne-esque, so take it or leave it.  When the current 007 is killed or retires, the next agent in line is stripped of his memories and given the memories of the previous agents, so in their minds, they ARE all of those previous agents.  This explains a lot of strange things like Blofeld not recognizing Bond, while still explaining why Bond is still out for revenge against him.  And explaining why he still remembers his dead wife even after actors switched.  The more I think about it, the more it makes sense.  

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The last of the 'old ones' is directly proportional to the age of the Bond film viewer.

My last of the 'old ones' is Yog-Sothoth.

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Darth Lucas said:

I was thinking a lot about Bond today, specifically the timeline issue.

The answer is obvious: There is no real, strict continuity. References to previous films can be made whenever it's useful, but in general the filmmakers do not care. Anything beyond this is absurd retcon and against the spirit of the films.

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Absurdity is well within the spirit of these films.