Info: Re-mixed audio tracks on video releases — Page 9

The Dollars trilogy on LD has the original English dub audio WITHOUT all the noise reduction and severe EQ that severely cut the atmospherics and detail.

They sound as good as vintage prints but clearer due to a proper transfer and not being degraded optical tracks. There is some intrinsic noise to the sources here and there, but it is beyond putting up with due to the uncut dynamic range. Even the Morricone scores play generally without distortion!

The only downside is that FAFDM is cut in little bits all over the place. The new German uncut BD is supposed to have the English dub in DTS. GBU is overmatted and uses some kind of Italian-US hybrid source. I've got the rarer reissue and will do a comparison later.

What about "The Wizard Of Oz"?

Batman Forever is like the others, same video master, but with the same 5.1 theatrical mix as the ac3 track. That being said I did notice an slight overall difference A/B-ing between the two. The LD is noticeably punchier and has greater bass whereas the DVD version seems a tiny bit constrained as if it had been tweaked for the home.

Love this mix, very straightforward with some of the clearest mono dialog ever. Inf act it's too clear as all of the pronunciations are enhanced as is the ADR so it feels almost exasperated from the mix at times. Another reason why the Dolby Surround version is almost as good if not better.

Ok, after some research, here's what I could find on "The Wizard Of Oz":

LD: Some (if not all) LaserDiscs are mono (like the 50th Anniversary Edition), others were fake (credit for info: skyjedi2005) stereo (like a Japanese release with reference number G98F5545).

link: http://www.lddb.com/search.php?search=wizard+of+oz&sort=title

DVD: Dolby Digital 5.1 for the simple release, original slightly altered (credit for info: SilverWook) mono included in the Collector's Edition and the 70th Anniversary Edition.

link: http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=114

BD: Both Dolby TrueHD 5.1 and mono sound is available on all official Blu-rays.

link: http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=15760

Anyone have the mono mix for dirty harry?

I know the laserdisc is analog only.

Wish i knew someone who somehow copied the optical track off a 35mm print,lol.

Avatar_Emil said:

Ok, after some research, here's what I could find on "The Wizard Of Oz":

LD: Some (if not all) LaserDiscs are mono (like the 50th Anniversary Edition), others were stereo (like a Japanese release with reference number G98F5545).

link: http://www.lddb.com/search.php?search=wizard+of+oz&sort=title

DVD: Dolby Digital 5.1 for the simple release, original mono included in the Collector's Edition and the 70th Anniversary Edition.

link: http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=114

BD: Both Dolby TrueHD 5.1 and mono sound is available on all official Blu-rays.

link: http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=15760

Are you sure that is not another electronically retracked into stereo mix.  I have a 007 laserdisc like that its the mono mix faked for stereo playback.

on Wizard of OZ I grew up with the incorrect black and white opening and always assumed that was original as well, only recently have they restored the true sepia opening of the film on home video.  Could be wrong maybe it was on laserdisc but every tv version i saw and vhs was black and white.

skyjedi2005 said:

Are you sure that is not another electronically retracked into stereo mix.  I have a 007 laserdisc like that its the mono mix faked for stereo playback.

 

It could be, lol.

Updated info regarding Wizard Of Oz audio:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Re-mixed-audio-tracks-on-video-releases/post/650895/#TopicPost650895

Thanks to SilverWook and skyjedi2005 for the info. You have been credited as sources.

bear in mind that the UK DVD's for Batman Returns and Batman Forever will be censored