Warbler said:
Mrebo said:
They'd have to have the Supreme Court declare that the 3rd Amendment applies to the states (via the 14th - that is not automatic and never been decided).
I won't go there, I agree to disagree here.
You're not permitted to disagree on this point :P
You're right than an argument can be made that the 3rd Amendment (even if I'm not convinced), but it is fact that the 3rd Amendment has never been found applicable to the states and that the Supreme Court goes through lengthy justifications to establish when part of the Bill of Rights is thus incorporated. Until just a few years ago, the 2nd Amendment was not held applicable to states. The Court could change based on the argument you're making, but it would have to happen!
Mrebo said:
I've read they are making a 4th Amendment claim, which one could say is not applicable since there is no search or seizure (aside from the arrest).
they entered the house without permission, if they did not have a warrant, I think that violates the 4th amendment.
Mrebo said:
Good old-fashioned trespass, property damage, assault, false arrest, and other such legal claims are the most straightforward route, I'd wager.
cops committing trespass doesn't violate the 4th amendment?
It can. But the 4th Amendment applies to searches and seizures. I have not seen it claimed that the police sought to search or actually did search. As always, an argument can be made. And throwing constitutional claims on the power makes it sound all the more egregious.
Mrebo said:
"If you think it's 60 percent likely or 70 percent or even 80 percent likely that Zimmerman is guilty and doesn’t deserve self-defense, you have to acquit," Dershowitz said.
well 80% does get close to what is needed to convict. You don't need to erase all doubt, just all reasonable doubt.
Dershowitz did proceed to say that 90% gets close.
darth_ender said:
Current Events. No politics. If the scenario turns political, take it to the politics thread, and put a link in here for others to follow if interested.
Link.
And finally, modern science catches up to reality on salt.