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Yes I still have it. Someone stole my Mad Max 2 R1 DVD thought. The one with the pan & scan side, which would allow to reconstruct the TV cut. It's easy to get I guess thought.
Yes I still have it. Someone stole my Mad Max 2 R1 DVD thought. The one with the pan & scan side, which would allow to reconstruct the TV cut. It's easy to get I guess thought.
I'm very much interested in any restorations of any Mad Max movies. Though I don't have much material myself. All I have is PAL DVDs of 'Mad Max' and 'The Road Warrior'. If I remember correctly the first movie's DVD had two English audio tracks, an en_AUS and an en_US one. The 2nd movie's one just has one English audio track though. Both have some other audio tracks too iirc. The Road Warrior DVD also starts with some old Warner logo and it has a "The Road Warrior" title card, but no "Mad Max 2" one it seems? Are there multiple English tracks for this movie and how rare are these tracks? Am I fair to assume that the two DVDs I have don't contain any rarities at all? The 2nd movie's DVD has no extras, and I think neither does my DVD of the 1st movie.
Have some screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/zvjT4 (Excuse me for not aspect ratio correcting these)
Doesn't the BD of 2nd movie have the Mad Max 2 title?
I still want that super rare available for like 3 months only Australian vhs to surface for Mad Max 2. It was either in this posting or another where an older member claimed to have had it and gave it to someone else to preserve but that post was from a few years ago
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Warner is prepping a trilogy BD set for later this year. Likely just a repackaging of MGM/Fox's BD of the first film with the WB Road Warrior and a simple no frills BD of Thunderdome. Probably will tie in with the new prequel/sequel whatever it is.
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Okay, so now that this box set is out and it's clear that The Road Warrior (though sharp and detailed) still has the wrong color timing...
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/reviews/upload/cc1.png
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/reviews/upload/cc2,jpg.jpg
http://www.blu-ray.com/images/reviews/upload/cc3.jpg
... does anyone care or is this current transfer alright with most everyone here? I still have the original snap case DVD from Warner and the original BD release. I do prefer the warmer colors from the DVD though, but the transfer to BD always had stunning detail and clarity.
I would fancy a digital regrade, using the DVD as reference. Oh yes. The Blu-ray have the colors toned down, to hide that it's not regraded right (the color of the desert changes from shot to shot within same scenes) and have a green push.
How do we know the DVD to be correct?
Here's an interesting discussion about the colors...
http://www.madmaxmovies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9850
It's sort of like the Raiders Blu-ray vs. the WOWOW broadcast from Japan... the best look might be somewhere in between the two images. I really think The Road Warrior Blu-ray needs to be a bit warmer.
The color timing has been debated for years now...
"The current blu-ray is the accurate representation of Road Warrior, and looks absolutely phenomenal. Earlier home video releases were color timed incorrectly to overcompensate for poor color reproduction on NTSC and PAL systems. This was a VERY common practice in the early days of home video, right through the 90s (Francis Ford Coppola talks about this on the Dracula blu-ray, I believe).
Colors were almost pushed to an unnatural degree so that they would appear more appealing and "pop" on the displays available at the time.
Yes, Road Warrior had previously been pushed a bit in the reddish/orange department to make it appear more "warm". And so had "Do The Right Thing".
But now they have been restored to their original color balance, and both titles are, in my opinion, 5 star transfers. I have no reservations in recommending either blu-ray to fans.
Now bring on Thunderdome and the original Mad Max!!"
"I personally thought this transfer looked dull. It's much more crisp and clear than the standard dvd, but the color timing does seem suspect, and the film seems to lose its 'post-apocalyptic' feel because of it. I actually found myself less interested in the film because of this, especially towards during the tanker chase scene, where things just look too 'green' and 'lively' to me to suggest a post-nuclear landscape.
Perhaps this has something to do with a different print being used (as the title card on this transfer plays as the Australian title 'Mad Max 2,' instead of North American 'Road Warrior.'). There does seem to be a lot of arguing on both sides of this one, and listening to the Miller-Semler commentary on the disc, I didn't seem to hear any comments about the film being color corrected. Anyone know if either of them had a hand in prepping the transfer for HD?"
"The current Blu-ray is the accurate representation of The Road Warrior."
"Er, no I can forward you to any theater doing a reshow from any print still out there and not made from a new Digital Interpositive. You will see the movie looked, more or less, like the old DVD.
This Blu-Ray is the equivalent of the French Connection Blu-Ray, it's not the film. It might have marvelous detail on some shots, it's like watching a rough print that is not color timed. This transfer needs to be redone right."
I'm pretty sure this is an issue of using a master source that did not have the the theatrical color timing. Somewhere the cinematographer mentioned about having to push the color saturation for prints a lot which would make sense if this were the case.
I really prefer the old timing, and have held onto my snapper DVD just for it despite being the slightly cut US version.
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This seems to be an R18 version of MM2 & 3.
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That's an old UK tape I had years ago - not sure what it's doing in Aus! It's the BBFC 18 edit of Mad Max 2, the current HD version is more complete.
Speaking of which, I recently synced the laserdisc Dolby Stereo for Mad Max 2 / The Road Warrior to the HD-DVD video for a custom disc. I'll upload the track if anyone's interested, though I'd like to wait until the new Blu-ray release arrived with me to check that it syncs with that.
The old DVD was correct, you just have to look at Beyond Thunderdome, which as the same desert color as the older MM2 master.
Also I saw the movies in the theaters dozens of time. The Blu-ray is crap.
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The old DVD was correct, you just have to look at Beyond Thunderdome, which as the same desert color as the older MM2 master.
Also I saw the movies in the theaters dozens of time. The Blu-ray is crap.
But different directors and in parts Locations
Jonno said:
Speaking of which, I recently synced the laserdisc Dolby Stereo for Mad Max 2 / The Road Warrior to the HD-DVD video for a custom disc. I'll upload the track if anyone's interested, though I'd like to wait until the new Blu-ray release arrived with me to check that it syncs with that.
Awesome, I wanted to get the LD just for this track. But how did you manage syncing with the few excised bits from the US edit? (Not that I remember all of them.)
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It wasn't easy! Of course we're not just talking about two different cuts, but two different regional prints - a US 'Road Warrior' print (used on the laser/DVD) and the Aus 'Mad Max 2' print used for the Blu. The separation at birth resulted in all sorts of inconsistencies at reel junctions and such, but I took my time smoothing the joins and (in some cases) looping and patching - it's fairly transparent unless you do a direct A/B.
The new set should be with me in a couple of days, and as said I'd just like to check that the sync works with the latest version before I upload it (even though I'd synced precisely to the HD-DVD's TrueHD, the video still gave me trouble when I remuxed it for Blu - seems there's some sort of undisclosed delay with HD-DVD discs.)
Your problem is that the encode is vc1. In mkv files, vc1 generates out of sync tracks, they doesn't gel. If you use a reencode, it should work fine. VC1 is a crap codec.
Sounds about right. The new disc is AVC encoded so we should find it altogether easier.
I'll also put together some instructions for replacing the WB logo with the correct Saul Bass version. You just need a BD copy of a film that uses it, which is considerably easier now that some modern films have adopted it (Magic Mike and Argo).
I believe Enter The Dragon uses that logo too, but the one on Argo is probably of higher quality.
I just happen to like the Argo version because of the simulated dust and scratches, but good tip on Enter the Dragon too. 'Upgraded' studio logos are a pet hate of mine - see also the various Bond releases.
Ok, I've done my resync of the theatrical stereo to match the new BD - PM me if interested.
In addition, here's my guide to replacing the WB logo with the original:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/BD-studio-logo-replacement-a-simple-guide/topic/15647/
For my own purposes I put together a little sequence incorporating a Dolby Stereo trailer, a UK 'X' rating card and then the 1972 Bass logo. Let me know if you'd like to use that yourselves and I'll upload it.
Jonno said:
For my own purposes I put together a little sequence incorporating a Dolby Stereo trailer, a UK 'X' rating card and then the 1972 Bass logo. Let me know if you'd like to use that yourselves and I'll upload it.
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Jonno, not sure you have realised this, but the old warner logo on the Road Warrior is in 4/3 format.
The true movie version start all in 4/3 from the logo up to the end of the recap.
Now that's interesting! Do you have a reference for this? The widescreen VHS and DVD had the replaced logo, and I've never seen a widescreen presentation prior to that.
It just happens I've recently purchased the Criterion blu of Badlands with its Bass logo present and correct. 1.85:1 will probably crop to 4:3 quite effectively.
Does the LD have the widerscreen logo or 4/3? BTW I PMed you, I'm dying to get the LD surround track :)