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Post #646229

Author
Mrebo
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Are Muslims really trying to take over, or are some people just suffering from Islamaphobia?
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Date created
20-Jun-2013, 12:55 PM

CP3S said:

Hey, it's me. said:

No you misunderstand Boost (the Queen indeed! Lol)

These few would be a start.

1. Heavy penalties for Mosques that knowingly allow extreme Imams to preach at their mosques and jail time for repeat offenders. Also the banning of extremist preaching at universities, in the street and everywhere else besides mosques.

This one isn't a bad idea. In the US, we would probably see this as a violation of freedom of speech and freedom of religion, but much of what is taught by some of these guys are teaching is easily categorized as hate speech.

CP3S is right it would be a violation. Conservatives hate "hate speech" laws. And liberals love non-Christian religions. So it would be a non-starter here in the US anyhow.

The KKK, Westboro, whoever...has the right to express their views, however extreme. Only if imminent lawlessness is intended and likely from the speech can it be punished.

I think there are really good reasons for that, no matter what country one lives in. There's also the slippery slope problem once you start calling some speech inherently dangerous.

2. English language, and UK history and culture to be taught compulsory at every Mosque for Muslims who do not know how to speak the language and are oblivious to UK history.And then tested by an independant adjudicator on their fluency and knowledge.

Telling religious organizations what they should teach also rubs against the American conception of freedom. Schools should be required to teach english. And if someone doesn't learn your language...then what?

3. NO Sharia courts in the UK. You live by our laws when it comes to family matters like every other resident of the population.

Absolutely! This should be a given. Any country that is willing to let Sharia into their court system is asking for it and just plain stupid. I'm with you 100% here. Religious freedom shouldn't extend to allowances for things that are otherwise illegal (maybe with a few small exceptions. For example, I appreciate that the use of ayahuasca, a potent hallucinogen, is legal in the US for practitioners of Santo Daime, even though I can't legally acquire ayahuasca for my own personal use).   

Agreed, should be a given. Respect should be given to cultural understandings and importance (as is given to the Amish in the US), but everyone should be under the jurisdiction of the same sets of laws.

4. The banning of the Burka as its a security risk.

Burkas bother me. I absolutely hate what they represent. But I have a hard time getting behind this one.

I'm with CP3S here. I thought France's ban was heavy-handed. A Burka is not a security risk any more than a backpack or a large coat.