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Brilliant post Adywan.
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CP3S said:
LOL. You're a trip.
Anyway, no, America and the U.K. don't seek out immigrants, but they provide a process for those interested to become part of a selection process, they they select from that pool. So yeah, in a manner of speaking, we do "swoop in and take them".
I think this is where the confusion may lie to what's actually happening and the problems that this country is having with immigration. The selection process only applies to people who want to emigrate to here from none EU countries. Anyone inside these EU countries can just walk in and start claiming state benefits and there is nothing we can do about it. The EU commission keep stopping any attempt made by the UK to change the benefits policies. And this is causing the problems here.
When the EU doors opened Britain became flooded with Millions of Eastern Europeans. At this time banks had started making it harder for anyone to get a mortgage and , with house prices souring, it became almost impossible for anyone on an average wage to buy their own house. Private renting also became problematic due to souring rental prices. When someone on minimum wage was earning the same or even Less than landlords were charging for a months rent for a 3 bedroom house, their only chance was social housing. But we were so short of social houses, thanks mainly to Margaret Thatchers scheme to allow people to buy their own council houses at greatly reduced prices. But NONE of this money raised went back into the system to build more houses, like was originally promised. Now, the waiting list to actually get one of these houses is horrendous. The chances are that you'll not get one.
Now, to try and combat this problem the government introduced Tax Credits. This entitled you to help with your rent if you worked. If you were on benefits then your rent would be paid. So people were having to look for private renting because there were no social houses left. But here's where the problem started. You would find a suitable house in your area but the benefits office would refuse to pay your rent because they deemed the rent to be too high. So, again, you were stuck. Thanks to the inflated rental prices.
Now, a little way down the line, we get the mass immigration happen. And guess what??? They were immediately given benefits and housing. They were put to the top of the social housing list. Councils and housing associations were told that they had to find a certain percentage of housing for these immigrants. Suddenly we see people being evicted from their houses for being slightly behind on their rent. Also, people who were near the top of the list, suddenly found themselves a lot further down.
When it started coming out about how many of these immigrants had been housed in luxury housing, multi million pound houses where the tax payer was footing the rental bill, this is where the unrest started happening. When UK citizens were refused housing benefit because the powers that be deemed the prices "too high", for then to allow the immigrants to rent more expensive properties was a huge slap in the face for the UK citizens.
You get all these do gooders over here that say that immigration is not a problem and that we should allow them to integrate with our society, but you usually find out that these same people live in areas unaffected by the recent mass immigration and have no clue about the fact that you'll find that it is in fact the immigrants that refuse to integrate with our society.
Here's examples of what's really happening here;
Government funded day centres set up so Mothers can meet started barring UK citizens claiming they were set up so that immigrant mothers can meet up, even when they were not set up for that reason. Not exactly integrating.
Companies started refusing to employ UK workers and instead were only employing mainly Easter European workers. Walk into a Job centre now and you can see jobs advertised ONLY in a foreign language with no English translation available. UK jobs advertised solely in the EU countries BEFORE they are advertised in this country. Now this is when unemployment is at a record high. The Government want to make it so an employer can sack anyone for no reason without having to worry about that worker taking them to a tribunal, all under the guise of cutting red tape and helping businesses grow. This is only going to make the problem worse. They brainwash the masses to believe that only reason why these companies are employing solely immigrants is that the UK are workshy and didn't want the jobs i the first place. That is complete bullshit. Yes, you have that part of society that refuse to work because they get more on benefits, but that does not reflect the whole of the British workforce.
There was a company where i use to live that was the one place where school leavers in the area were guaranteed a job when they left school. This stopped dead when the flood of Eastern Europeans came over. Now it employs solely immigrants. There isn't a single British person working there apart fro in management. But here's where it takes a different turn. The managers there were told that they had to learn Polish or they would lose their jobs. They protested and said that it should be the workers that were made to learn English and NOT the other way around. When the workers were told this they flatly refused and placed the "racist" card. Guess what, the managers who refused to learn Polish were sacked. That is disgusting. So much for integration. Why should UK people be forced to integrate when the immigrants refuse?
There are a lot of things going on over here that just go unreported. People just haven't got a clue about what's really happening unless they are in an area that has been affected.
There are a HUGE number of these immigrants that come here for the benefits system. At a time when the government are cutting peoples benefits left right and centre, at a a time when disabled people are having their benefits stopped because an outsourced company was put in charge to assess disabled benefit claims assess that these people are fit for work, when they clearly were not. Now the government have introduced the bedroom tax for anyone who receives benefits and live in a house that has a spare bedroom(s). These same people where there are no smaller houses for them to move into so they are stuck.
Funnily enough this does not affect immigrants. Not exactly fair now is it?
The government want to change the benefits system to stop the "benefit tourists" but the EU courts stop them at every turn.
Is it fare that Uk citizens are being refused benefits or any help at all, when they have worked and paid into the system with their taxes and national insurance contributions, while any none Uk citizens can come here and are given benefits and even help so they can claim everything that may be entitled to (something UK citizens are not)
Is it fare that they can claim benefits for their families that don't even live in this country?
The government use the same old excuse that immigration can only benefit this country and the economy. Bullshit. When so many of them send a huge portion back home, that money is NOT being ploughed back into our economy.
People are being brainwashed into thinking its a good idea. It's not.
If i emigrated to another country then i would expect myself to learn their language and integrate into their culture and follow their laws. So why should i expect and different from anyone that wants to live here?
But when they refuse to integrate into our culture, then why should we be forced to integrate their culture into ours? It's not being a "bigot" or a "racist" to speak out about these things.
So why are we refusing entry to people outside of the EU that could actually benefit this country? There are NO criminal checks done on any of the immigrants coming from within the EU countries. When they commit serious crimes we are then unable to deport them back to their country because "their human rights" would be violated. What about the human rights of their victims? We have the hate preachers over here that are living in luxury on state benefits, while spewing their bile and hatred towards all none Muslims. These same people are linked directly to the extremists that have carried out terrorist attacks upon this country. They are allowed to preach on the streets with nothing done to them. But dare you say anything against them and you can be arrested.
A recent case happened in my old town of Shrewsbury. There is the old Registrar office that was being sold off. Now this is an old historic building. Groups applied to turn this building into things like cancer support centres but were flatly refused with the powers that be claiming that it would create too much of a disturbance to local residents thanks to parking problems. Now this building is worth around £600,000. Then it was announced that it had been sold for just £225,000 to a Muslim group that were now going to set up a prayer centre. So why all of a sudden is the parking issues no longer a problem? There have been a lot of protests there due to this. But every opposition to it has been labelled "racist". And, funnily enough, the residents there no longer have a say in the matter.
A petition and a facebook group were set up against the proposed plan. But facebook removed the page claiming it was set up solely to create racial hatred, which it was not, and the petition was ignored. Now people have been arrested over racial remarks made on this page. Two white males were arrested for remarks made. But why was the Muslim guy who posted on the same page, to which these remarks were made, not arrested? Here is what he posted which started it all:
"All you white bastards need to get over yourselves. Islam is taking over. There is no denying it. Embrace Islam or face slaughter. "
Now, at first, this was claimed to be someone with a fake account stirring up trouble. But no. It was a real person. A Muslim that lives in the town. But he was not arrested and the police said they would be taking no action against him. This is what is stirring racial hatred. Why is it acceptable to one person to bring colour into an argument in a defamatory manner, while it is unacceptable for another? Surely it shouldn't matter what colour you are, if you make a remark about the colour of another then that is indeed racism. It shouldn't be just a white person that can be branded and judged as being a racist. You should be treated equally no matter what colour you are. But until the powers that be understand and accept that, racial tensions will only continue to rise.
The UK is not against immigration. But we are against those who come here just for our benefit system.
I wonder how many of these people that come here would stay if all these benefits were not available for them? And by benefits i mean not just the money, but the instant housing and all the other benefits involved. We are only a small island and we are at bursting point. Now there are two more countries joining the EU and guess where they want to head in their millions?
