STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 1101

I don't think you're going to get it. Well this actually shows just how faded the GOUT is in removing any blues (especially when everyone thinks that Hoth should be completely white with NO blue at all) and how bad the colour grading in the Blu-rays /DVDs is too compared to the original. .

In the first shot of the Imperial fleet we see the distant stardestroyers and then the tower fills the screen.

Well here it is in the GOUT

And here it is in the Blu-Ray

So here it is the exact same colour as the other stardestroyers, yet they all now have a strange tint to them. hmmm. . You've got to love those Blu-Ray colours.

And here it is in the clip i posted (hasn't changed in any of the version i posted)

But wait..... That isn't supposed to be your ordinary stardestroyer though is it? Is that why it is Blue in the theatrical version AND the special edition versions?

Puggos 16mm

1997 Special Edition

Yep, that's actually the Executor. Its the first time we get a glimpse of it.

It always was blue. So now you can see just how wrong we perceive the colouring of the originals, because we are so use to the faded versions. I deliberately changed this tower to the same grey as the rest of the ships and no one mentioned it.

Its such a shame that we no longer seem to know what colour these films were and that these films probably have never had a decent release with their correct colour timing intact. And this has been made even worse thanks to the DVD's / Blu-Rays. You can see with the Blu-Ray screenshot, with all the ships now having that strange tint but yet none of them looking any different in tone, just how messed up the colouring of that transfer is. And Lucasfilm are still maintaining that there is nothing wrong with the colouring.  So why, when it's the correct blue colouring in the 1997 Special editions, can the Executor now look the same as all the other ships in this shot? It also changes shade throughout this whole sequence. Sad times indeed.

Here is the REAL screenshot from the Revisited version.

Now, in the past, there was mention (not sure if it was here) about how the ships are placed in the opening shot compared to when we see them later and that it is a continuity error. Well, it isn't . Now that we know this tower belongs to the Executor we can see that these ships are high above the ship and would actually be out of frame in any of the other shots (going by the trajectory of the Executor)

That's pretty cool.

Dang it, I saw the color of that tower last night, but didn't guess it.

protocoldroid3po said:

What I always thought on that scene is the reason why Vader indicates toward Veers that way is because with that mask and the suit in general, his expressions are muted in a way.  So, spinning around like that shows how urgent the matter is, and how serious Vader is.  That's just me, though.

Tobar said:

Are you 100% certain it's the Executor in that opening shot? I always interpreted it as look at how massive the bottom of this bridge section is, then cut to the entire star destroyer to show the scale of the rest of the ship which is then engulfed in the shadow of an even bigger ship that dwarfs the already massive star destroyer in size. The whole thing being a play on the opening of the original Star Wars.

adywan said:

I don't think you're going to get it. Well this actually shows just how faded the GOUT is in removing any blues (especially when everyone thinks that Hoth should be completely white with NO blue at all) and how bad the colour grading in the Blu-rays /DVDs is too compared to the original. .

In the first shot of the Imperial fleet we see the distant stardestroyers and then the tower fills the screen.

Well here it is in the GOUT

And here it is in the Blu-Ray

So here it is the exact same colour as the other stardestroyers, yet they all now have a strange tint to them. hmmm. . You've got to love those Blu-Ray colours.

And here it is in the clip i posted (hasn't changed in any of the version i posted)

But wait..... That isn't supposed to be your ordinary stardestroyer though is it? Is that why it is Blue in the theatrical version AND the special edition versions?

Puggos 16mm

1997 Special Edition

Yep, that's actually the Executor. Its the first time we get a glimpse of it.

It always was blue. So now you can see just how wrong we perceive the colouring of the originals, because we are so use to the faded versions. I deliberately changed this tower to the same grey as the rest of the ships and no one mentioned it.

Its such a shame that we no longer seem to know what colour these films were and that these films probably have never had a decent release with their correct colour timing intact. And this has been made even worse thanks to the DVD's / Blu-Rays. You can see with the Blu-Ray screenshot, with all the ships now having that strange tint but yet none of them looking any different in tone, just how messed up the colouring of that transfer is. And Lucasfilm are still maintaining that there is nothing wrong with the colouring.  So why, when it's the correct blue colouring in the 1997 Special editions, can the Executor now look the same as all the other ships in this shot? It also changes shade throughout this whole sequence. Sad times indeed.

Here is the REAL screenshot from the Revisited version.

Now, in the past, there was mention (not sure if it was here) about how the ships are placed in the opening shot compared to when we see them later and that it is a continuity error. Well, it isn't . Now that we know this tower belongs to the Executor we can see that these ships are high above the ship and would actually be out of frame in any of the other shots (going by the trajectory of the Executor)

But how do you know it's supposed to be the Executor, especially as the editing flows from this shot, to the front view of 2 regular star destroyers, whereupon the shadow of the Executor moves over the front SD, which then switches to the Executor over top the SD we were introduced to, whereupon the last shot showing the fleet moves back considerably to show the vastness of the Executor?

By making this tower the Executor, it doesn't make sense from an editing perspective.  Why start with the Executor, show a separate shot of SDs, then go BACK to revealing the Executor as opposed to one flowing set of edits moving to the Executor reveal (shadow, underbelly, full profile shot)?

Even in the GOUT the tint is slightly blue and nowhere near as strong as the Executor blue we see later.

I dunno.  Maybe it's supposed to be, but I personally feel the current edit flows better than jumping back and forth.

Burdokva said:

Tobar said:

Are you 100% certain it's the Executor in that opening shot? I always interpreted it as look at how massive the bottom of this bridge section is, then cut to the entire star destroyer to show the scale of the rest of the ship which is then engulfed in the shadow of an even bigger ship that dwarfs the already massive star destroyer in size. The whole thing being a play on the opening of the original Star Wars.

 Always though so myself. For that ship will always be a regular star destroyer that gets dwarfed by the shadow of the Executor...

I have to agree with everyone here Ady, it makes more sense to have that bridge be for the SD as its saying to the audience look how big and domineering I am, only for it to be dwarfed by Vader's ship moments later

Those objections everyone just raised?

I agree.

Of course it's supposed to be the Executor. It was coloured blue in 1980 and again in 1997. That was their whole intention all along. You also have to remember that the executor model was more grey and it was coloured blue in post (check out the SE shot of the executor during the bespin escape where they forgot to reapply the colouring and it's almost white).  It makes perfect sense to me that it would be the Executor. the stardestroyers are all small in the first shot then this huge tower comes into shot, then we see this large shadow covering the standard stardestroyer. Its all building up scale from shot to shot until the final reveal. The large tower, the shadow eclipsing the stardestroyer, the belly then the reveal. Without that first large tower there is no sense that it is a large ship causing the shadow until we see the belly. It could have just been anything. That is what an establishing shot is for.

If it was meant to be the Executor in 1980, then that is how it will be in this version.

Bingowings said:

It's the shark's fin.

Thank you. You got it right there.

I've always thought it was the Executor. The sharks fin is the perfect analogy.

So i shouldn't return it to it's original colouring because everyone thinks it should be a different colour? Am i on the right site? Have i slipped into a mirror universe? lol