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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
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12-Jun-2013, 6:04 PM

adywan said:

I don't think you're going to get it. Well this actually shows just how faded the GOUT is in removing any blues (especially when everyone thinks that Hoth should be completely white with NO blue at all) and how bad the colour grading in the Blu-rays /DVDs is too compared to the original. .

In the first shot of the Imperial fleet we see the distant stardestroyers and then the tower fills the screen.

Well here it is in the GOUT

And here it is in the Blu-Ray

So here it is the exact same colour as the other stardestroyers, yet they all now have a strange tint to them. hmmm. . You've got to love those Blu-Ray colours.

And here it is in the clip i posted (hasn't changed in any of the version i posted)

But wait..... That isn't supposed to be your ordinary stardestroyer though is it? Is that why it is Blue in the theatrical version AND the special edition versions?

Puggos 16mm

1997 Special Edition

Yep, that's actually the Executor. Its the first time we get a glimpse of it.

It always was blue. So now you can see just how wrong we perceive the colouring of the originals, because we are so use to the faded versions. I deliberately changed this tower to the same grey as the rest of the ships and no one mentioned it.

Its such a shame that we no longer seem to know what colour these films were and that these films probably have never had a decent release with their correct colour timing intact. And this has been made even worse thanks to the DVD's / Blu-Rays. You can see with the Blu-Ray screenshot, with all the ships now having that strange tint but yet none of them looking any different in tone, just how messed up the colouring of that transfer is. And Lucasfilm are still maintaining that there is nothing wrong with the colouring.  So why, when it's the correct blue colouring in the 1997 Special editions, can the Executor now look the same as all the other ships in this shot? It also changes shade throughout this whole sequence. Sad times indeed.

Here is the REAL screenshot from the Revisited version.

Now, in the past, there was mention (not sure if it was here) about how the ships are placed in the opening shot compared to when we see them later and that it is a continuity error. Well, it isn't . Now that we know this tower belongs to the Executor we can see that these ships are high above the ship and would actually be out of frame in any of the other shots (going by the trajectory of the Executor)

But how do you know it's supposed to be the Executor, especially as the editing flows from this shot, to the front view of 2 regular star destroyers, whereupon the shadow of the Executor moves over the front SD, which then switches to the Executor over top the SD we were introduced to, whereupon the last shot showing the fleet moves back considerably to show the vastness of the Executor?

By making this tower the Executor, it doesn't make sense from an editing perspective.  Why start with the Executor, show a separate shot of SDs, then go BACK to revealing the Executor as opposed to one flowing set of edits moving to the Executor reveal (shadow, underbelly, full profile shot)?

Even in the GOUT the tint is slightly blue and nowhere near as strong as the Executor blue we see later.

I dunno.  Maybe it's supposed to be, but I personally feel the current edit flows better than jumping back and forth.