imperialscum said:

darth_ender said:

And I supported my government based on what I believed to be legitimate intelligence. In retrospect I've learned. That doesn't mean I believe ever going to war is wrong, but I'm certainly more wary of their intelligence.

That is not the point. You can see a reasonable motive behind it (weapons of mass destruction and "evil" dictator crap) and I too can see reasonable motive behind it (profit, exploitation). But the point is that the invasion was a violation of international laws. It was not approved by UN. Objectively it is just as criminal act as invasion of Poland by Germany and USSR.

That was several years ago, and I was much younger. I didn't understand the role of the UN, and I also believed (actually, I still do) that a nation-state is sovereign, not the UN. That said, I now understand things differently, and I believe the war was a huge error and was in violation of the UN. I don't know why you continue to personalize this attack on me, as if I did it, as if I still agree with it, as if I had full grasp of the facts. It was clearly not about oil, and if oil was a concern, it was secondary. If you also read my posts (was it in this very thread?), I don't believe the president should even be allowed to engage in military action as they now do without the approval of Congress. In other words, Bush should not have invaded. But I believe this is a good country with noble motives the majority of the time, and I will defend against your assertions otherwise till you or I drop dead.

Why are you not so inclined to point out our current president's illegal wars, out of curiosity?