Warbler said:

Hey, it's me. said:

Bingowings said:

It's all very right on an with it of you to say so but while people are 'harping on' about how women are predetermined to do this or that and men are predetermined to wear this and drink that your respect for the inner person doesn't count for much if she is sent back to the kitchen where she belongs and he is out beating up poofs.

I don't want to send women back to the kitchen, nor would I say she belongs there and he belongs out beating up poofs(whatever the heck a poof is).

Well of course you don't but your wacky notions of biological predetermined gender behavior held by enough people eventually leads back to policies of that nature being adopted to appeal to those sentiments.

Most Europeans before WW2 had a general feeling that Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals and Lefties were a bit too worryingly different for their taste but I doubt if most of them would have worked the machinery of the holocaust until the political atmosphere not only allowed them but encourage them to do so (largely out of fear of the same happening to them).

People like Wells and Shaw were pro-eugenics until they saw how the Germans did it.

It's easier to label some people as non-human if you already have labeled them non-conformist or different.

It's safer develop an indifference to difference. The words, "If everyone is special no one is" needn't be a negative statement. If no one is special, no one is targeted.