TheBoost said:

Hey, it's me. said:

The examples you use aren't exactly adult movies are they. Ripley from the Alien films is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Adult films for adults, not teenage guff.

Not totally sure what your point is. That we force gender roles on children through the media, but that all magically vanished when we're old enough to watch "Alien"?

This is actually slightly besides the point, but:

I love Alien, and it is cool that the main protagonist was a strong female, but then we still get to see her in the traditional role of playing eye candy for the benefit of male viewers at the end of the film while waltzing around in her panties. Same thing with Princess Leia, we're giving a strong female protagonist, and in the third film we objectify the shit out of her for the first however many minutes of the film.

We still force these characters into the expected gender roles, Leia is a strong character you wouldn't want to mess with, then BAM, she's imprisoned, vulnerable, and naked and needs a boy to come save her. But then again, I guess she started off the first film as the damsel in distress anyway.

But is this even that big of a deal anymore? I feel like our society is meeting equilibrium when it comes to objectification, you have shows like Spartacus that shows lingering close up shots of muscular men wearing next to nothing, and while you see plenty of female nudity in that show, they also hang plenty of dong on screen. True Blood is much the same way, equal opportunity objectification. And you get films like Magic Mike drawing in large female crowds.