Ok I must apologise if my opinions have come across as being overly aggressive on this question (especially to Gaffer). I do agree with the make up point. Less is more in my eyes. And if a woman chooses not to shave her legs and armpits then good luck to them. I can only speak from experience from the relationships I've been in. And that is the women have opted themselves (without any harangument from me) to regularly shave their legs and armpits (plus other areas lol) basically because not that they feel they have to but because thy want to. It's what they like and it makes them feel feminine. One particular girl I was seeing a few years ago hardly ever wore make up at all, and when she did it was very minimal.