Warbler said:
Hey, it's me. said: There a forms of attire that are specifically related and designed for the sexes. And skirts, along with high heels and blouses etc are for women. Just the way it is. Somethings will never change...lol :-D (love that tune)
this ^ a thousand times over.
I'm going to suggest a new tune here, a much older and more timeless tune. Bob Dylan's Times They Are A-changin'.
Everything changes. We used to wear very different clothes than we do now. Just 100 years ago we wore very different clothes than we do now. Just 200 years ago we wore very different clothes than we did now and 100 years ago. Men wearing wigs, makeup, and high heels was once in some places the equivalent of a tuxedo.
Somethings will never change? Please, let's not be so silly! Who knows what fashion will bring in another 100 years time. In another 200 years time. 300 years time. In your lifetimes, clothing styles will change and vary a lot, but perhaps not that much. The clothes your children wear will be very different from your own, but the clothes your grandchildren and great-grandchildren wear will be extremely different, the clothes your great-great-grandchildren and beyond wear will be unrecognizable.
Bingowings said:
Warbler said:
strange. I wonder why.
So you are saying because CP3S sees these urinals in the gay bars he's been to gay people go to the toilet to look at each other?
Hmm, clearly I assumed he meant the "Not sure if serious" in regard to whether or not I was serious that I went to gay bars, not whether or not I was serious if the gay bars I had gone to used trough-urinals. Likewise, I assumed his, "Strange. I wonder why." was aimed at wondering why I would go to a gay bar, since I am straight, not wondering why the gay bars I have been to might have had trough-style urinals.
Now that you took his wondering why the other way, I am no longer quite sure which one he meant.
I live in the most culturally devoid part of the world I could possibly imagine, and I had never wandered into a gay bar prior to living here, so it probably is just the places I have been to, and not the norm for American gay bars.
However, looking at other dudes while they pee may not be the reason for going to the toilet (I'm assuming the reason for that is a full bladder), but they certainly do just that in there.
When I am there my comfort zone usually leads me to the one and only stall in the place (even though it has no door). But on one particularly drunk occasion, I really, really had to go. Upon arriving in the bathroom I found a few guys peeing in the trough, with a large clump of guys lined up behind them. As the two that had been urinating left, the next in line approached the urinal, an extremely attractive twenty-something. As he undid his pants he said over his shoulder, "Come on guys, don't be shy, there is plenty of room for more than one." No one budged. Drunk and about to burst at the seams, I said screw it to my comfort zone, took the spot beside him. As I was undoing my pants, he said, "Don't worry, I'm not going to look..." and as soon as I had it out finished the delayed sentence with "...MUCH!" and craned his head over to stare directly at it for several seconds.
I was drunk enough to find this incredibly amusing, and even responded with, "I feel like I should let you know that I am a bit more of a grower than a shower." Which got, "Oh, me too! Well... Okay, not really, I'm a grower AND a shower!" As we washed our hands beside each other, he sighed and commented on how he'd had nearly every gay cock in that place as well as several of the straight ones, and really needed some fresh blood. I got out of that somewhat awkward conversation by informing him that I was there with my girlfriend.
But yeah, peeking at the trough-urinal happens. Though I am sure it usually doesn't turn into awkward propositions.