Bingowings said:
imperialscum said:
Bingowings said:
Ben : The Emperor knew, as I did. If Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him. That is the reason why your sister remains safely anonymous.
That would seem to imply there is something special about Luke and Leia and their connection to their father that worries the Emperor but interests Ben and Vader.
The only real connection they have this point is blood.
The look of horror on Leia's face when she discovers Luke is Vader's son doesn't make it seem that affection for her absentee father is a threat Vader or Ben can use against Palpatine.
Though ironically Anakin's latent affection for his child is what defeats Vader and his Emperor.
You have crushed your own argument. The threat that Emperor was afraid of was the very same thing that ended his life in the end. That is Luke triggering something good in Vader that eventually led to return of Anakin.
How is that of any use to Vader?
How is that of any use to Ben who pushed Luke into killing Vader?
Sorry mush but if anything is crushed it's it your wet cardboard thinking.
Who said that this thing was of any use to Vader? Vader was hunting Luke purely because he felt that he was strong in the force during the battle of Yavin. That alone made Luke useful to him.
But it was of use to Ben of course. I mean it ended exactly in that way. Who said Luke wasn't just an expandable asset to trigger Anakin's return? In fact a lot of things suggest that, including: Ben not training him before his late teens, Yada not trying harder or even force him to stay on Dagobah and of course Luke actaully triggering Anakin's return in the end. In addition, does at any point in the trilogy look like Luke can actually defeat Emperor and Vader? The answer is no.