adywan said:

Asteroid-Man said:

timdiggerm said:

Given that DSLRs give good image quality, and they don't need to record the sound...why not?

DSLR has good image, but compared to 35mm film, it's laughable. The colour range is only 8-bit, which drastically limits what you can do with colour grading. Most DSLRs don't even have a full frame image sensor. 5D does, which it seems like is what they are using though. You're bound to get artifacting.

The contrast ratio with DSLR is also hysterically shitty compared to film. DSLR crushes the blacks on shooting. The colour range isn't true YCrCb 0-255, and regardless of what you do with it, you end up with RGB 16-135.

Artifacting and brightness/contrast/colour aside, the grain on a DSLR compare to that of celluloid is an even bigger difference that Gorilla Grain can't meet, as much as it claims that it can.

When you have virtually every cinematographer in the industry saying that Digital STILL doesn't have the same look as Film (and these are people comparing film to the likes of the Alexa) how on Earth do you expect a DSLR to do it? Granted, MANY cinematographers are beginning to shoot digital now over film (obviously excluding the likes of Wally Pfister), but if they were doing some inserts for a film that was shot, coloured and edited on film, do you think they would shoot digital, let alone a DSLR?

Are you serious? You are comparing a fan film with a budgeted studio production?

Well if you want to give us the money to rent a Panavision 35mm camera, the money for the reels of film, the money for all developing costs, the money for professional digital scanning and all the other things attached to filming in 35mm and we'll gladly use film. And all that just to film a hologram shot and a brief distant walking shot?

But in the real world we use what we can that can still give us the results we want at the smallest costs. Funny how i have already shown a clip a long while ago that incorporated footage shot with a standard consumer camera ( before we got the Sony Z1) , yet NOT ONE person commented that the footage didn't match the original and stuck out as being digital.

It's just a fan edit after all.

I can't give you the money for a 35mm camera, but I could have LENT you a 35mm camera and maybe even some film for the Montreal shoot if I had known prior to April. I could have scanned the film myself too.

I'm kind of upset with myself now that I wasn't more up to date with this thread.

Oh well, it's in the past. I hope the DPs did most of the colouring on location (with gels and in-camera colour temp) because grading 8-bit colour (specifically the 5D) is very limiting.