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Ady created the Alderaan destruction video as a joke because he imagined the worst thing anyone could do is edit Jar Jar into A New Hope. He figured he would make a joke video. It was a joke, NEVER considered to be in the final edit.

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doubleofive said:

Ady created the Alderaan destruction video as a joke because he imagined the worst thing anyone could do is edit Jar Jar into A New Hope. He figured he would make a joke video. It was a joke, NEVER considered to be in the final edit.

Seriously? I thought I remembered him saying he didn't put it in the edit because it showed Alderaan's destruction as rather slow which didn't fit Obi-wan's description of it as instantaneous.

Well I'm glad to know he never actually thought of putting that in ANH.

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Ok I'll conclude my mental Pass over the Hoth Battle and give reasons for each suggestion based on why I feel it might improve the sequence (this is based on my opinion only and has no bearing to anything Adywan or the team does of course) and is only an exercise to highlight my final thoughts and explain the reasons behind why I have made the suggestions I have.

1. Making Lukes Crash feel more natural - slight use of reversed footage at a different speed so he brings his head up to lead into the next shot of him getting his buckles off feel less jumpy (self explanatory really)

2. Seeing a Scout trooper on a speeder Hoth Camo bike 2d animation whiz past- Serves as a tease for ROTJ makes the battlefield feel a bit more dangerous for luke who is crash landed and trying to escape from the downed snowspeeder.

3.General Veers gets killed after destruction of Shield generator - We don't see him again this was in the original script probably already addressed with new footage perhaps.

4. Vader walks off a shuttle onto hoth - I feel this is a better way to introduce Vader to Hoth battlefield rather than the first time we see him there he bursts through a wall with snow troopers using the added scene at the end of ESB special edition that we know is being cut and finding a better use for it. It also ties in that veers mentions to Vader "you may begin your approach"

5. Seeing Snow troopers disembark the AT-AT's on ropes. Star Wars fans know that the AT-AT's carry troops but we never got to see it in ESB. It would not only go in hand with Vader walking off a shuttle but some people may not realize that this is part of their purpose as a troop carrier and not just an assault mech. Using footage / elements from Imps Chapter 2 is an option to avoid lot's of extra work perhaps.

6.Vader Slaughters a Rebel in Echo Base with Light sabre - It would serve to show that Vader was coming to kill Leia, Han, Chewie etc and be a lot more menacing and create more tension this could be achieved using existing footage and one of the new rebels the team are filming perhaps. Later Vaders strategy changes because Luke is not there.

7. Using the Awful footage of the Wampa Attack - Make it look like security camera footage and show the 2 rebels hit by Laser fire instead of an invisible Wampa round the corner. Storm troopers never killed anyone and the placement I suggested ties in with the announcement "Imperial troops have enetered the base" but because we don't see storm troopers it makes the announcement plausible to come afterward. But this may already be addressed with new footage

8. Taun Tauns - It would be nice to see some Taun Tauns on the Battlefield the stop motion Taun Taun (although no good close up) Could be plausible from a distance with motion blur running away in the later stages of the battle. A lot of factors involved with this one but co-operation would be required from person with stop motion puppet (can't be too many of them around) but I admit this is the most difficult suggestion due to how complicated it could actually be. But CGI Taun Tauns perhaps would not work?

9. Slow Snowspeeders - First Post Changelist number 89 - Vaguely addressed but thought I would share my thoughts on which ones I think are Bad

10. Out of Scale AT-ST - Addressed and Removed

11. Wedge's Cockpit POV shot - Suggest Cut makes no sense dialog wise "I'll cover you" and looks Bad or alternative shot / dialog.

12. ION Cannon Fires Again - re-used footage but flipped on a new background Serves as a reminder the battle is not just taking place on the surface and that the only offense the rebels can mount of the incoming invasion is from this point as all other resources are taken up by defense

13. Bomber in Hanger Bay before Bombing Run - Could serve to set up a better transition and set an atmosphere rather than jumping straight to a star destroyer shooting asteroids few asteroids float past in space and help show losses to craft in this dangerous situation.

14. Luke meets no resistance when leaving Hoth - I know this has been discussed at length and I hope the team do something to address this somehow but I will reaffirm this one also.

That is my thoughts it does not make anything right or wrong or anyone else's opinions right or wrong it's just an exercise and none of it is needed to be done has to be done or should be done. It is an exercise and this is my conclusion on Battle of Hoth section and shortly there after suggestions.


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Jar Jar is gonna die in an edit, just not this one.

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TV's Frink said:

Jar Jar is gonna die in an edit, just not this one.

Return of the Jedi?

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ray_afraid said:

Is your "yup" confirming that this will happen, or just an agreement?

Just an agreement. But I wouldn't be surprised if Ady does something very close to that. It would be a great revisited tradition. Ady loves a good joke, so people saying that he doesn't have time for something like that don't know him very well.

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Ronster said:

TV's Frink said:

Jar Jar is gonna die in an edit, just not this one.

Return of the Jedi?

That's a movie, not an edit.

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muddyknees2000 said:

ray_afraid said:

Is your "yup" confirming that this will happen, or just an agreement?

Just an agreement. But I wouldn't be surprised if Ady does something very close to that. It would be a great revisited tradition. Ady loves a good joke, so people saying that he doesn't have time for something like that don't know him very well.

He could have it done already for all we know.

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adywan said:

Hmmm... :-D

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TV's Frink said:

Ronster said:

TV's Frink said:

Jar Jar is gonna die in an edit, just not this one.

Return of the Jedi?

That's a movie, not an edit.

ROTJ:R?

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adywan said:

My body is ready!

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...and with you too adywan, always.

Thanks for this latest enbiggable pic to keep us going, as I was really hoping you'd show us a little something today.  As usual, you didn't disappoint.  :)

This initial glimpse of 'Cloud City' in the distance as the Falcon and cloud cars approach it, and the sun's glare appears, was always one of my favourite 'beauty shots' in the original...and I was a little uncertain when I knew you were gonna be altering it.  I needn't have worried, as your new revamp looks glorious.  Fabulous work as always.

I'm looking forward to seeing that hint of a 'lens flare' in motion eventually.

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All of the preceding shots now have the sun no longer changing sides. Each shot looks just as gorgeous.

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Wow my eyeballs have just melted!

Any kind of eta on this?

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Ryan McAvoy said:

Wow my eyeballs have just melted!

Any kind of eta on this?

'When it's ready' (trademarked) - in before any of the usual suspects.  ;)

Sometime this year is the target is all we know at the moment Ryan.

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Okay cool. Was just wondering if this was somekind of 'It's ready now!' teaser thing.

I'll just have to take a cold shower and wait. lmao

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Ryan McAvoy said:

Okay cool. Was just wondering if this was somekind of 'It's ready now!' teaser thing.

I'll just have to take a cold shower and wait. lmao

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Ronster said:

14. Luke meets no resistance when leaving Hoth - I know this has been discussed at length and I hope the team do something to address this somehow but I will reaffirm this one also.

Yeh, this was discussed a long time ago. I went through and watched everything in depth to see what could be added, but then realised that nothing needs to be added. The Imperial fleet are long gone by the time Luke and the last few stragglers leave. Vader is after the Falcon and we see that they are pursuing Han & co. Vader and the other ships are there too. Vader isn't bothered about defeating the Rebels but only interested in getting Luke. He knows that capturing the Falcon is the key to ensnaring his son or that Luke may be onboard the Falcon. So Vader and the fleet blockade are gone, enabling Luke's easy escape.

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adywan said:

Yeh, this was discussed a long time ago. I went through and watched everything in depth to see what could be added, but then realised that nothing needs to be added. The Imperial fleet are long gone by the time Luke and the last few stragglers leave. Vader is after the Falcon and we see that they are pursuing Han & co. Vader and the other ships are there too. Vader isn't bothered about defeating the Rebels but only interested in getting Luke. He knows that capturing the Falcon is the key to ensnaring his son or that Luke may be onboard the Falcon. So Vader and the fleet blockade are gone, enabling Luke's easy escape.

What about adding in a scene where some Star Destroyers attack Bright Hope. BH is the last ship seen leaving as Luke gets ready to leave. More info is here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bright_Hope#Battle_of_Hoth

You don't have to show that much, just do something like this:

The ships takes of (img 1), we see a closer shot of the ship (img 2), a Star Destroyer fires on it (img 3). We then cut to Luke's X-Wing leaving the planet. I think we shouldn't get to see what happen to BH, but if you want to, then it's fine by me.

 

 

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adywan said:

Yeh, this was discussed a long time ago. I went through and watched everything in depth to see what could be added, but then realised that nothing needs to be added. The Imperial fleet are long gone by the time Luke and the last few stragglers leave. Vader is after the Falcon and we see that they are pursuing Han & co. Vader and the other ships are there too. Vader isn't bothered about defeating the Rebels but only interested in getting Luke. He knows that capturing the Falcon is the key to ensnaring his son or that Luke may be onboard the Falcon. So Vader and the fleet blockade are gone, enabling Luke's easy escape.

What about adding in a scene where some Star Destroyers attack Bright Hope. BH is the last ship seen leaving as Luke gets ready to leave. More info is here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bright_Hope#Battle_of_Hoth

You don't have to show that much, just do something like this:

The ships takes of (img 1), we see a closer shot of the ship (img 2), a Star Destroyer fires on it (img 3). We then cut to Luke's X-Wing leaving the planet. I think we shouldn't get to see what happen to BH, but if you want to, then it's fine by me.

 

 

They gave the transport a name? Oh god. And people wonder why i hate the EU and completely disregard anything to do with the EU for my edits ;)

But seriously, we already have a scene that shows a transport escaping. The film doesn't need another one. Adding in scenes just for the hell of it or to show something we don't really need to see completely destroys the flow of the film. You only have to look at the added scenes of Vader flying to his shuttle to see just how adding wrong something like that is.

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adywan said:

They gave the transport a name? Oh god. And people wonder why i hate the EU and completely disregard anything to do with the EU for my edits ;)

But seriously, we already have a scene that shows a transport escaping. The film doesn't need another one. Adding in scenes just for the hell of it or to show something we don't really need to see completely destroys the flow of the film. You only have to look at the added scenes of Vader flying to his shuttle to see just how adding wrong something like that is.

Yep, it has a name. "I'm a person and my name is Anakin Bright Hope." (Alright, shut up). Then what if on the DVD, you include it as a deleted scene. Just like your Death Star Jar Jar joke?

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Ronster said:

14. Luke meets no resistance when leaving Hoth - I know this has been discussed at length and I hope the team do something to address this somehow but I will reaffirm this one also.

Yeh, this was discussed a long time ago. I went through and watched everything in depth to see what could be added, but then realised that nothing needs to be added. The Imperial fleet are long gone by the time Luke and the last few stragglers leave. Vader is after the Falcon and we see that they are pursuing Han & co. Vader and the other ships are there too. Vader isn't bothered about defeating the Rebels but only interested in getting Luke. He knows that capturing the Falcon is the key to ensnaring his son or that Luke may be onboard the Falcon. So Vader and the fleet blockade are gone, enabling Luke's easy escape.

sometimes it's better to leave stuff alone....like you say it can feel worse than what we have become familiar with for years and then the horror story starts. I can buy your take because I've bought it all along from the original.

there is still a part of me that thinks that the only fundamental difference between the falcon and all the other ships is that the falcons hyper drive does not work and that is the only reason why they are in that mess.

But I certainly don't want to see any huge action sequence involving loads of x-wings or transports or even capitol ships only that Hoth is not a safe place at this time for anyone that leaves and would only relate to luke because he is the only other one we don't see any others escape. And it's a huge tone shift that needs to happen for the dialog but it don't feel right in the environment.

Vader is in echo Base when they are leaving... So that makes me think that the invasion is still in full swing or should I say an Invasion of a by and large empty and evacuated echo base. Vader would have ordered that pursuit of the falcon from echo base Hanger. and to create a net for anything else that got through as that's what they were doing from the start. Mop up operations would be taking place. As long as you have a hyper drive that works you stand a good chance of getting away.

In simpler terms you end up in the falcons situation if your hyper drive does not work if it does you end up in a similar situation to the transport that escaped and any other escapees with a working hyper drive. as that's always how anyone get's out of a tricky spot by punching the light speed button.

If any changes were to be made in any edit of ESB that is how I think it should be handled.. Anything else would be over the top and even that handling I suggest may be over the top for some people.

The other continuity with luke jumping away is that it helps explain why he reaches Dagobah so quickly this obviously happens off screen presumably.

But why does Dagobah look like Hoth? I reckon you have altered this one but I have not checked your vid yet.

I never actually thought Vader was after Luke on Hoth at this point...Because the way the sequence is laid out...and the conversation with Vader and the emperor come later But you are right. Vader is after Luke as the main endgame and the conversation between Vader and the emperor back tracks that plot point.

Interesting stuff thanks for that one.