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msycamore
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Upscaling Robocop Criterion (Released)
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21-Apr-2013, 10:18 AM

Moth3r said:

RU.08 said:

Moth3r said:

Why are you carrying out IVTC? Couldn't you just use force film in DGIndex?

What's your final intended format? If making AVCHD/BD then I think you'll have to add the black borders to the side to make the horizontal res up to 1280.

You can't use force film on titles like this, it was "scanned" in a telecine machine the same as 1993 star wars LD's were. This title was originally a laserdisc too.

Actually, you can use Force Film on the Star Wars DVDs, even though they originated from laserdisc masters.

Generally, I never use Force Film if I know the source is "hard telecine" as opposed to "soft telecine".

Absolutely - but do you know for sure that this is hard telecine (i.e. does the Ignore Pulldown option give you telecined output)? Force Film can deal with minor breaks in the pattern and keep sync.

I do remember that you couldn't use Force Film on this one successfully as with GOUT, recall spotting combing in several places, I ultimately did an IVTC on it as well.

Fucking love Robocop, agree with many here that this old transfer is still a solid one. I cannot see why you would want to degrain it though, I simply opted for a simple 16:9 resize. For those who resize it, keep in mind that the left and right borders shifts wildly during the transfer.

borisanddoris said:

Popped in my Criterion LD copy recently and forgot how wonderful this one is. The Blu-rays both suck a big one. Anyone here anything about a future Criterion re-issue on Blu? I won't hold my breath.

The 2.0 PCM holds up nicely as well. I've never heard the 5.1 mixes on DVD or Blu, but it did have a 70mm 6 track mix upon initial release.

Yeah, the original mix is great and also a little bit of a milestone as it was one of the first films with Dolby Spectral Recording. Haven't heard the DVD/BD 5.1 mixes myself but heard reports of Basil's score being drowned out by sound effects in certain scenes such as in the drug factory sequence. Both the 20th Anniversary DVD and MGM/FOX BD does apparently contain a discrete version of the original mix in Dolby Digital 4.0.