xhonzi said:
Warbler said:
Ask reasonable questions is one thing, but that is not was these conspiracy nuts do. They find out something like the Boston bombing happens and they go "Yippy! another chance to spread a conspiracy theory, lies and false accusations! Hmm, how can I make this look like the government did this?"
There is nothing reasonable or beneficial to what they do.
I hope to offer a reasonable dispute.
Some of them may be saying "Yippy!" but I think more are saying, "What if this isn't what it appears to be? If it's not, then it's probably someone trying to manipulte my actions. What reaction are they looking for? That's the one I don't want to give."
They don't ask "What if this isn't what it appears to be", they assume it and go from there. And before anyone says it, it was not my intent to assume that Al-Qaeda did the Boston Bombing. It as my intent that a compete, exhaustive and thorough investigation be done.
xhonzi said:
Do you like being manipulated? Do you like someone trying to control your actions?
no.
xhonzi said:
Let's have an example- Have you heard of the Trolley Problem? Basically, would you sacrifice the life of a few innocents to save a larger number of people in peril? Could you push a man, not in any immediate danger, in front of a trolley if it would save the lives of 50 people? Not many people think they could, because the idea of sacrificing an innocent life is so repulsive... even though the economical answer is quite clear. If we value human life, then we should consider more human lives to be of more value than fewer lives.
However, I think you have to be a certain kind of person to go through with it. Studies show us not only that, but that the more distance between you and the victim, the easier it becomes. Having to shove the guy with your hands VS pushing him with a pole vs pushing a button vs telling someone else to do it. And whether you have to see it with your own eyes or not.
So, let's get crazy for a minute here... What if you're one of those people and you believe that poor gun laws in the USA are killing so many thousands of people annually... that even if it took the death of hundreds of innocents to create a swell of support for changing gun laws, that it would still save millions of lives in the not too distant future. Is that hard to imagine that someone could believe that? Now, if you wanted to turn popular support in favour of stricter gun laws, and you weren't afraid to get your hands a little bloody... what would you do?
I think for every sicko gun-nut that wants to shoot up a theatre or a school, there's a anti-gun-nut who is willing to help them if it means furthering the cause of "peace".
PETA poisons animals in captivity. To prove their point that animals shouldn't be in captivity. Because it kills them.
Am I crazy?
not really sure what any of that has to do with the Boston bombing or conspiracy theories of it and other things like it. And don't think the nuts that shot up Columbine, VT, Fort Hood, Tucson, the theater in Colorado, and Sandy Hook, were anti-gun-nuts attempting to get more gun control legislation passed nor do I think anti-gun-nuts helped them pull off these sick crimes.