Troll said:
What kind of a stupid name is blowfish?! and who wants to watch Star Wars without a Ronto's ass in front of the action. Thank the maker Lucas decided to ruin the effects, colors and audio of those classic movies so why bring them back!!!!
blowfish said:
What kind of a stupid name is despecilized?! and who wants to watch Star Wars with all those lame 70's efects. Thank the maker Lucas decided to update those terribly old movies so why bring them back!!!!
Quick! Get the torches and pitchforks! We have a troll!
blowfish said:
What kind of a stupid name is despecilized?! and who wants to watch Star Wars with all those lame 70's efects. Thank the maker Lucas decided to update those terribly old movies so why bring them back!!!!
Haha, this has to be a joke.
We love those lame '70s effects dude that's how it works.
Thanks for your positive feedback ;)
“English, motherf***er! Do you speak it!?”
He forgot to say original vision. Deduct two points.
Harmy, in this shot, there seems to be a lot of purple going on:
I really just noticed it on Ben's left hand (right of frame) when he was moving his hands during "it surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together" when I was watching the other day. But when I went back to screenie the frame, I noticed it more on/around the table behind his hand, and on the metal stove.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Seriously, I'm not touching the colors any more. And why is the quality of that screenshot so god-awful?
Speaking of color, while I don't actually ever watch the Blu-rays of the films, I'm currently perusing the extras Blu-rays, which often feature clips from the movies, and good lord I can't see anything but how terrible the transfer and colors are. If I haven't said it a million times already, thank you for what you're doing Harmy.
For people who want the burned in sub scenes clean, would it be possible to render just those scenes by themselves sans subtitles as an extra?
They could even be encoded at a slightly higher bit rate since they may be used in other projects and thus re-compressed later.
As a side note, I remember hearing about multi-angle and dynamic-branching back when DVD first came out. I've still never seen a really good implementation of it. Mostly the discs I have just stutter or hang when trying to use the feature. Fusion! Still only 50 years away!
I'm pretty sure the Close Encounters bluray has dynamic branching. It's how they have all three cuts of the film on one disc.... It's not three separate complete films...
canofhumdingers said:
I'm pretty sure the Close Encounters bluray has dynamic branching. It's how they have all three cuts of the film on one disc.... It's not three separate complete films...
There are several Blu-rays that have it, but you need really high-end software and knowledge about Blu-ray specs to do that yourself.
Just looking at my BD collection - all the Alien movies have two different versions via seamless branching. Three different versions of Blade Runner on one disc. Terminator 2 has three different versions on one disc. Original and DC of Terminator Salvation on one disc. Close Encounters has already been mentioned. Apocalypse Now has two different versions too. But like Laserschwert said, it's way too difficult to do. Or rather I think to do it well - to have it play smoothly.
The guy who made MultiAVCHD wrote up this tutorial on creating branched BD playlists:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154815
Basically you create each 'chunk' as a separate BD folder, then use MultiAVCHD to link them into alternative playlists (then use BDedit to remove redundant elements).
I've used this technique to link separate elements on a multi-part Blu-ray (e.g. a new logo before the main feature) - it's the best way I've found to create such compilations without actually editing them together (and thus reencoding). Might be worth a try, but results do vary from one BD player to another.
Jonno said:
The guy who made MultiAVCHD wrote up this tutorial on creating branched BD playlists:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154815
Basically you create each 'chunk' as a separate BD folder, then use MultiAVCHD to link them into alternative playlists (then use BDedit to remove redundant elements).
I've used this technique to link separate elements on a multi-part Blu-ray (e.g. a new logo before the main feature) - it's the best way I've found to create such compilations without actually editing them together (and thus reencoding). Might be worth a try, but results do vary from one BD player to another.
And this is where a problem comes up, when doing these BD projects you want to have your BD as compatible as it can be with all players and all PS3's all over the World, this to me is very important with all our BD releases, we are trying something all new with a project we are doing with having 2 versions of the same movie on 1 BD50 but they both will use the same audio and subs, should be interesting to say the least, and fun!
Yeah, that's exactly the thing - the way I understand it, when they are authoring seamless branching professionally, they can determine where the data for each chapter will physically be on the disc and thus make sure the playback doesn't skip during the transitions. I am fascinated by BD features like maximum movie mode as seen for example on the last two Harry Potter films and Terminator Salvation. Basically it turns the film into a similar thing like Jambe Davdar's docs, only it does it in real time, using the actual HD footage of the main feature on the disc. This would be awesome if I could do something like this on the DeEd BD, because then it could pause on each despecialized shot and explain how it was done and show some before/after footage and stuff but it's just way out of the realm of possibility here.
EDIT: That sounds really interesting DJ. Which project are you doing this for?
Even back in DVD days (they're over, right?) there were players that had problems playing discs that utilized seamless branching. But we should not forget, seamless branching and alternate angles is not the same thing. Video angles can be used if the running time is identical in all angles (and the multi language crawls on the official SW DVDs used angles), while seamless branching provides in fact alternate "playlists" of parts of a movie so the play time can differ.
Unfortunately angles are still diffcult to pull off.
Harmy said:
Yeah, that's exactly the thing - the way I understand it, when they are authoring seamless branching professionally, they can determine where the data for each chapter will physically be on the disc and thus make sure the playback doesn't skip during the transitions. I am fascinated by BD features like maximum movie mode as seen for example on the last two Harry Potter films and Terminator Salvation. Basically it turns the film into a similar thing like Jambe Davdar's docs, only it does it in real time, using the actual HD footage of the main feature on the disc. This would be awesome if I could do something like this on the DeEd BD, because then it could pause on each despecialized shot and explain how it was done and show some before/after footage and stuff but it's just way out of the realm of possibility here.
EDIT: That sounds really interesting DJ. Which project are you doing this for?
Our Night of The Living Dead 1990 Special Edition BD50.
Cool - will that be two different color timing choices then?
Harmy said:
Cool - will that be two different color timing choices then?
Yes, we will have our preferred version, The Special Edition, and then the original Theatrical color timed version.
Laserschwert said:
Even back in DVD days (they're over, right?) there were players that had problems playing discs that utilized seamless branching. But we should not forget, seamless branching and alternate angles is not the same thing. Video angles can be used if the running time is identical in all angles (and the multi language crawls on the official SW DVDs used angles), while seamless branching provides in fact alternate "playlists" of parts of a movie so the play time can differ.
Unfortunately angles are still diffcult to pull off.
The official Star Wars DVD used angles, but the BD may be seamless branched as there are seperate crawls on the disc as M2TS files.
With Blu-ray multi-angle, you actually duplicate all of the audio with each angle, so that each stream is a standalone file which are then 'interleaved' during the muxing process.
Harmy said:
This would be awesome if I could do something like this on the DeEd BD, because then it could pause on each despecialized shot and explain how it was done and show some before/after footage and stuff but it's just way out of the realm of possibility here.
Even if you cannot author your disc like this, it would make a nice framing device whereby when you select the extra, you show the scene, then 'rewind' to show how it was done - they could work quite well on their own.
blowfish said:
Why is it that just cause someones got a diffrent opinion hes automatically a troll huh. maybe I just think the old Disco Wars movies are out dated. is this how you traet all new guys! this place is a dump full of dumpter divers!! i woudn't take the recrapified edition if someone gave it to me with $ 100 bonus!
If you want to be treated respectfully fine, but then what floats your boat or constitutes something that isn't "crap" or "dated"? It's one thing to say you don't prefer something this way, but taking a dump over what we love here as if what we're doing is wrong won't go unnoticed so sorry if you're offended by something no one asked you to be a part of.
And the trolling continues.
If you come to a place the main goal of which is to get the original version of Star Wars in high quality (this whole site, not just this thread) and start telling people that the original version sucks balls, you're a troll. That's all there is to it.
Honestly, I recommend just putting him on ignore. I finally did.
Who's Adwyn? Is that like Adblock?
Also, Harmy, I'd like to petition to become one of 9 people in the world who want to see the "recrapified" edition.
:)
PS: Wow, this thread has 8,276 posts! That's 1034.5 posts per person of the 8 who want to see the Despecialized Edition. That's a lot of posts!! lol
I was gonna retort further but it's probably better to let the troll starve.
Awww, fun spoilt. :)