CP3S said:
Whoa! Twis, I feel like you are comparing apples to chocolate bars to belugas. You're all over the place.
No not really.
I'm sorry but throwing a whole bunch of G-forces on the body and taking them out at a time when you're certain they'll survive and inducing a heart attack are two different things. "Near death experience" well it's pretty much in the title itself. Unless you're doing something to the person that there's only a 1% margin where they'll actually survive. Hell even less than that might be required it's not entirely valid as a reconstruction of said "near death experience". After all the basic idea behind it is that God or some other supernatural force has decided "it's your time to die" and only through some extraordinary free will determination are you saved. That is impossible for humans to fully recreate. It's basically your time on the schedule of death being rescheduled due to massively unlikely free will choice being exerted. Or at least it's supposed to be. Consequently if it does hold relevance at all and if any of them are true supernatural occurrences it's simply impossible for us to really recreate such events. We lack the essential data of exactly "when" we should test for such a thing. Also if we ever did obtain access to such data the testing would be futile. The proof that a supernatural entity can plan a time for our deaths and has an afterlife waiting for us would be the result that any such testing would be looking for.CP3S said:
It isn't a case of something artificial imitating something real, it is a case of something real being understood to a degree that we know how to make it happen. We can replicate heart attacks too, because we know exactly what is happening to the heart during a myocardial infarction. This doesn't mean "faking" a heart attack, this means we have the ability to force a real heart attack. At one point we may have thought a heart attack was any one of many gods striking someone dead, now we know better.
Even exerting our free will and killing someone for a minute or two and reviving them wouldn't be a true recreation of a "near death experience". It's simply not playing by whatever timetable that God may have set up for us. Simply put God would know it's a test. Or whatever supernatural being would know it's just a test you're doing. It wouldn't be fooled like that. If God exists She/he would surely look at our tests the same way we look at a CGI recreation.
I feel the gun analogy was perfect actually. Plastic can be molded to look exactly like a real gun. Holding a real gun and a toy gun in either hand tho. Instantly the weight would give it away. Problem is we're holding a plastic gun and comparing it to the picture of the real gun. Thinking we've successfully recreated it but it's only looks and no function.
