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Bingowings said:

I comment on how I don't like Return Of The Jedi that much or an acronym for a platitudinous epithet for the dead and suddenly the thread isn't about Roger Ebert anymore.

Not fun anymore.

You've been here long enough that I don't think I need to say "Welcome to Off-Topic."

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Because Roger Ebert was dead.

I gave it a day and the Jedi comment gave me an excuse to state my position again.

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Sorry.  Didn't mean to be too distracting.  Warbler, I think Bingo likes you.  I believe he just meant to make a point and used your comment to do so.  Truthfully, I prefer the written out 'Rest in Peace' over RIP as well.  I probably shouldn't have said anything.

Anyway, Roger Ebert--what a guy!  I admire his determination to keep going until the end.  And I too am grateful he defended ROTJ (Sorry Bing).

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Bingowings said:

Because Roger Ebert was dead.

I gave it a day and the Jedi comment gave me an excuse to state my position again.

I don't care about your opinion of Jedi.

I don't care about your opinion of "R.I.P."

Even though I find it odd and ripe for mocking as soon as you give me the opening.

I do care that you went after Warb.

JEDIT: Stuff it _ender, we'll have no respectful discourse in here!

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Frink, where were you when I needed you most, when I needed a friend?

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Way to stink up a memorial thread you guys.

Where were you in '77?

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I just felt like Warbler may have been unfairly picked on.  I then tried to get it back on track.  I'm happy if we get back to the subject.

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Back to on-topic in off-topic.

Why is there no DVD set of At the Movies? How the hell can I watch the show, from start to finish?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

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TV's Frink said:

twister111 said: 

SilverWook said:
Truly the end of an era. Now all we have left are mostly anonymous internet based movie reviewers. I don't think anyone else will ever have his level of recognition or prominence.
True the current media climate pretty much insures his status for the years to come. Sure it may be possible for someone to achieve such notoriety but it's unlikely as the many screens available vie for our attention.

Rest in peace Mr. Ebert.

*ensures*

/petpeeve

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insures?s=t
ensure or insure
— vb
1. ( may take a clause as object ) to make certain or sure; guarantee: this victory will ensure his happiness
2. to make safe or secure; protect

insure or insure
— vb

en'surer or insure
— n
insure
c.1440, variant of ensuren (see ensure). Took on its particular sense of "make safe against loss by payment of premiums" 1635 (replacing assure in that meaning).

You got a pet peeve over words that mean the same thing.http://i.imgur.com/g3b1O.gif

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Is there somewhere I can download "At the Movies", at least?

I'd prefer to buy DVDs, but that option doesn't seem to be available.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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AntcuFaalb said:

Back to on-topic in off-topic.

Why is there no DVD set of At the Movies? How the hell can I watch the show, from start to finish?

Licensing all the movie clips would probably get expensive. (Criterion did get the famous discussion Siskel and Ebert did about slasher movies for the Halloween Laserdisc.) The rights to the PBS incarnation of the show and the later syndicated versions are probably held by different entities. I also doubt the final incarnation Disney distributed would be released, as Ebert did pan movies from the mouse on occasion.

I would guess the online archive of old shows either has permission or somehow skirts the legal issues involved.

Where were you in '77?

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darth_ender said:

 Warbler, I think Bingo likes you.

Somehow, I doubt that.

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 I believe he just meant to make a point and used your comment to do so.

then why wait until I made the comment to do so?  Why didn't he make this point as soon as he saw the thread title?   I think he finds it fun and amusing to annoy me by playing devil's advocate with my posts. 

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 Truthfully, I prefer the written out 'Rest in Peace' over RIP as well.  I probably shouldn't have said anything.

R.I.P. is a very common way of abbreviating it, and it was common way before the internet.   I am willing to bet I could go to a grave yard is easily find a gravestone with the abbreviated version on it.  

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Anyway, Roger Ebert--what a guy!  I admire his determination to keep going until the end.  And I too am grateful he defended ROTJ

truth. 

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AntcuFaalb said:


Is there somewhere I can download "At the Movies", at least?

I'd prefer to buy DVDs, but that option doesn't seem to be available.

Well there used to be an archive website but it seems to be gone. :/ I tend to just look up film by film on youtube if I'm ever really that curious.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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If it's gone, that really sucks. Those clips weren't costing the studios a dime. It would be a shame if a significant chunk of Ebert's work disappears from public view to placate studio paranoia. :(

Where were you in '77?

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twister111 said:

 

TV's Frink said:

twister111 said: 

SilverWook said:
Truly the end of an era. Now all we have left are mostly anonymous internet based movie reviewers. I don't think anyone else will ever have his level of recognition or prominence.
True the current media climate pretty much insures his status for the years to come. Sure it may be possible for someone to achieve such notoriety but it's unlikely as the many screens available vie for our attention.

Rest in peace Mr. Ebert.

*ensures*

/petpeeve

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insures?s=t
ensure or insure
— vb
1. ( may take a clause as object ) to make certain or sure; guarantee: this victory will ensure his happiness
2. to make safe or secure; protect

insure or insure
— vb

en'surer or insure
— n
insure
c.1440, variant of ensuren (see ensure). Took on its particular sense of "make safe against loss by payment of premiums" 1635 (replacing assure in that meaning).

You got a pet peeve over words that mean the same thing.http://i.imgur.com/g3b1O.gif

No worries tho. http://i.imgur.com/UK732.gif It's okay.

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http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/assure-ensure-insure.aspx

The verbs assure, ensure, and insure all have the general meaning "to make sure," and even though some argue that they are interchangeable (1,2), many maintain that their usage is dependent on context (3,4,5,6):

Assure is something you do to a person, a group of people, or an animal to remove doubt or anxiety, as in Squiggly assured Aardvark that he'd come to the party early. You can remember that assure can only be used with things that are alive (and both assure and alive start with a). Only things that are alive can feel doubt or anxiety, so only they can be assured. 

Ensure is something you do to guarantee an event or condition, as in To ensure there'd be enough food, Aardvark ordered twice as much food as last year. You can remember that guarantee has those two e's on the end to help you remember that to ensure (with an e) is to guarantee something. 

Insure can be done to a person, place, or thing, but it's reserved for limiting financial liability, most commonly by obtaining an insurance policy, as in Aardvark wondered if the caterers were insured against loss. You can remember that we take out insurance to protect our income if we become unemployed, disabled, or injured in an accident. Both insure and income begin with -in. Finally, the related verb secure is used when you take possession of a thing or place, as in Aardvark secured a beautiful hall for his party, or when you make something stable or safe, as in Aardvark secured the welcome banner to the wall.

I'll define my own pet peeves, thank you very much.

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TV's Frink said:

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/assure-ensure-insure.aspx
The verbs assure, ensure, and insure all have the general meaning "to make sure," and even though <a href="http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/im-so-stylish.aspx">some argue</a> that they are interchangeable (1,2), many maintain that their usage is dependent on context (3,4,5,6):

Assure is something you do to a person, a group of people, or an animal to remove doubt or anxiety, as in Squiggly assured Aardvark that he'd come to the party early. You can remember that assure can only be used with things that are alive (and both assure and alive start with a). Only things that are alive can feel doubt or anxiety, so only they can be assured. 

Ensure is something you do to guarantee an event or condition, as in To ensure there'd be enough food, Aardvark ordered twice as much food as last year. You can remember that guarantee has those two e's on the end to help you remember that to ensure (with an e) is to guarantee something. 

Insure can be done to a person, place, or thing, but it's reserved for limiting financial liability, most commonly by obtaining an <a href="http://moneygirl.quickanddirtytips.com/what-insurance-do-I-need.aspx">insurance policy</a>, as in Aardvark wondered if the caterers were insured against loss. You can remember that we take out insurance to protect our income if we become unemployed, disabled, or injured in an accident. Both insure and income begin with -in. Finally, the related verb secure is used when you take possession of a thing or place, as in Aardvark secured a beautiful hall for his party, or when you make something stable or safe, as in Aardvark secured the welcome banner to the wall.


I'll define my own pet peeves, thank you very much.

http://i.imgur.com/IroH7.gif

You know I could be really pretentious about all this. Feign pedantic ambiguity and muddle this whole thing. And well, here I'll do just that for ya.

Assure is something you do to a person, a group of people,


http://grammarcops.wordpress.com/tag/ensure-vs-insure/
assure. verb (used with object), -sured, -sur?ing.
to secure; render safe or stable: to assure a person’s position.


What I was talking about was Mr. Ebert's public perception. I was talking about how the media climate has changed making such status secure for the future. These events and circumstances all involve people. Therefore since the current media climate is still in action then it's more logical to present "assures" as the correction.

"True the current media climate pretty much assures his status for the years to come."

Oh wait, there's more! Here comes even more blurriness to the situation.

Ensure is something you do to guarantee an event or condition,

Roger Ebert's general perception isn't exactly the "goal" of the current media climate. It's a byproduct but it acts as a means of insurance for that perception to remain.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insurance?s=t
insurance
b. the state of having such protection

Thus my initial usage of "insure" has more reason to be used. Rather than a term used in intended action as your grammar notes point out. "To ensure there'd be enough food, Aardvark ordered twice as much food as last year. " There is a specificity there that isn't meant by my statement. "The media changed in order to ensure Roger Ebert's general perception will be upheld." Doesn't work because we know it's not true. In fact both "assure" and "ensure" in your own assertive quotes denote inherent intent with action by the word "do". The only one talking about past action is "insure" with the word "done". In effect what we're talking about is a person who has passed. So it definitely feels more fitting to use the term with a description in past tense.

Sure the "but it's reserved for limiting financial liability, most commonly by obtaining an insurance policy" part is restrictive to that meaning. But sometimes somewhat archaic meanings simply fit better.
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There situation muddled!

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I'll answer the same to your post as I did to Bingo's unrelated PM, both of which I happen to disagree with...

Okay then.

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My comments about ROTJ and RIP are consistent with what I have said elsewhere on these boards and with the life of the man this thread was created to remember.

He was a free speaker.

He often had opinions about films that went against the grain of popularity (he liked Speed 2 and Dark City and didn't rate Blue Velvet or Full Metal Jacket) and he often had views on aspects of life outside the cinema that some people find difficult to agree with (he backed Al Gore's climate change views 100%).

I sent the PM Frink refers to in the hope it would remove this nonsense from this thread.

This is clearly not working so I will remove myself.

 

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Damn, that means my favorite part of this thread just removed itself.

:(

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I just kept spilling out words. This was as coherent as I could get it.

I read, watched and followed Roger for most of my life. As far as criticism went, he was untouchable because he never forgot that pure and simple love for the movies.

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