STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 1081

I need to say "WOW!" first, before continuing, because if someone takes on the mission to not just edit one, but 4 to 5 movies at once is a task not everyone is capable or willing to do ...

and I am split between at last getting ROTJ:R and a better PT:R - over there in the "Radical Prequel" thread I posted some ideas and toyed with others about improvements, that seem possible or realistic - so Adywan is surely one, if not the best who could pull the Houdini, that Lucas left behind ;-)

Wasn't sure if it is legit, but since no joke, this could be the last Dark Horse comic, if Marvel is to obtain the licence again:

http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Dark_Horse_to_Adapt_The_Star_Wars_150891.asp

and it could give us some great pictures/ideas for future edits, 'cause the source is McQuarries work :-)

Couple of things.....

1) I am absolutely gutted my name won't be in the credits of ESB:R. I even gave ady my real name and it was the thing I was looking most forward to. 

I was so very jealous that my name wasn't in the credits of ANH:R. 

Oh well, I guess it is the result of this project taking so long. Wasn't the cut off Nov. of 2009?

Anyways....

2) This whole sinking up of the ROTJ:R (OT) with the ST may be a moot point. We all know how long these things take to come out. We are less than 3 years away from EP VII and Ady isn't even done ESB:R yet. 

I would be willing to bet EP:VII comes out before ROTJ:R and ANH:R:HD. 

We only need to see EP:VII to find out what decisions they made and then ADY should he choose to, adjust Revisited. 

IMO, sticking to the ROTJ story line will cause no conflict. Which I think ADY was going to do anyway. Ie. Leia is sister, DS destroyed, Emporer and Vader die....  the only thing I could think of is that Boba Fett lives???

Matticon.

Matticon said:

We only need to see EP:VII to find out what decisions they made and then ADY should he choose to, adjust Revisited. 

He has already chosen not to......I don't understand why we can't put this one to bed.

Ep VII is the first in a TRILOGY OF FILMS.........something could pop up in the 2nd or 3rd film (a decade from now) that might not add up with Revisited....either way, we're not waiting around to find out.

Revisited will NOT work within official canon...Ady's decisions vis a vis the PT have already decided this. The ST not syncing up won't change anything as Revisited will already be a different canon.

I agree with some previous posters - the PT is a mess and is waaay beyond fixing. As such, I don't really care about them and looking at how long ANH:R and ESB:R are taking, I am afraid we might never get to see ESB:R.

Oh well. :(

ROTJ is a big mess too but it is salvageable... And would clock in at at least just over the 2 hour mark

I think it could be better to make the whole PT into one film and butcher the hell out of it (coming in under 2 hours)... There is so much stuff worth cutting out of them and just keep the main plot points.

1 decent movie or 3 rubbish ones.. That's the only way I see it to be honest

chyron8472 said:

No 3PO in the prequels. AT ALL. Please.

Not a fan of this at all.

One of George's promises was that the droids would be witness to the entire saga.

By removing one or both it weakens the potential of the Revisited project of being the SE and PT as they should of been.

There are plenty of lines spoken by Anthony Daniels in the PT and the Radio series to make him an actual background presence with his dignity intact rather than an annoying mechanical fan service/slapstick punchbag.

It makes much more sense him being in the PT than Fett, Chewie or even Yoda in my opinion.

The first sequence of ANH is both droids who have been in the service of the Organas for a long time and Artoo just gives off an aura of knowing a bit too much for an average repair droid.

The PT is full of potential for improvement. It's so broken that none of it is precious enough to get too worried about and therefore offers imaginative people like Ady and his team more breathing room for injecting new ideas and genuine character moments than any of the OT.

The OT is too much part of the lives of Star Wars fans to alter too much.

I shan't bog down the ESB:R thread with any more of these sorts of conversations and will copy them over to the other threads when I next feel moved to speak my brains.

I haven't posted on here in a while so, this might be a bit lengthy.

1. The Battle of Hoth scenes look incredible.  While some of the elements have a slight hint of a CG look to them, they are nowhere nearly as bad as the ones in the Special Editions.  It always boggles my mind that ILM could make dinosaurs look amazing in the original Jurassic Park and then could do such shoddy work in the SE.

2. The largest reservation that I have about tackling 5 films at once is that we likely will not see anything for roughly 10-15 years.  Granted, it has been a long and worth-while wait for ESB:R, but, without a larger team and resources there would be HUGE wait to see the results.  That and this would force me to buy the Prequel Trilogy on Blu-Ray much earlier than I had anticipated.

3. I like the changes proposed for the PT.  Anakin and Vader appearing as separate characters is genius, if it can be pulled off correctly.  For all intents and purposes Anakin "dies" after the battle with Obi-Wan, both to the viewer and to Obi-Wan himself.

4. I disagree with Bingowings on the point about the droids.  The fact is, at the end of the 3rd Prequel before the ownership of the droids being handed over, it is asked that their memories be wiped, just to correct the fact that they seem to have no knowledge of Darth Vader, Anakin or anything else in the OT.

    The fact is, it would be much more logical to have the droids serve SOME purpose in the PT but, not enough to the point of being "significant".  This would account for R2's "wisdom" about some things, seeing as the memory wipe mentioned in the 3rd Prequel wouldn't have to happen.

5. Dang I wish I lived in the UK and could directly help with this!

Most of the people helping Ady via the miracle of the magic internet tubes don't live in the UK so if you have some particular skill, idea or anything to offer you never know it might be just what he and the team are looking for.

As for the memory wipe only Threepio has that in the current version and that's because he is a motor mouth.

Even in the OUT he was a bit flaky about remembering Princess Leia which suggests he had some sort of block put on his memory.

I can imagine both playing a reasonable support role, maybe not as prominent as in the OT but enough to be recognisable come Episode IV should someone watch them in chronological order for the first time.

Indeed.  While I only mentioned emanswfan in my earlier post, it was only because of his interest in ROTJ and his "filmized" PT color work, both of which are goals for Adywan.  There are other very talented editors, such as aalenfae (who never ceases to amaze me with his special effects wizardry).  I honestly would recommend expanding Team Adywan to include some of these very talented editors (if they are interested), and maybe a couple from fanedit.org.  Adywan would still lead with his story goals, but the others could take part in work that would be useful for the project as well as for themselves and their own edits down the road.

I believe that if these movies are to be tackled simultaneously, this is the only practical way to do it.  Otherwise the timeframe will be so far down the road that video standards may have changed, not to mention any potential legal troubles as Revisited becomes higher profile.  I believe it would be in the entire project's best interest to get it done faster.  And if I had to settle for an incomplete project for whatever reason, I would also prefer to have the complete OT.  

Perhaps that's true.  And I certainly wouldn't mind if it is true.  But I believe there are several reasons the Collaborative ROTJ didn't work out, first and foremost was because no matter how hard I tried to not lead it, I started the thread and was very enthusiastic about ideas, so I think folks looked to me.  But the fact of the matter is I have no talent for fan editing, and was not deserving of any leadership role.  But Adywan has already proved himself to be quite capable, working almost entirely alone for ANH:R (though I think he had some help with the TIEs vs. X-/Y-wings, didn't he?), and has only further honed his skills for ESB:R.  He is exceedingly talented, has a fanbase (and thus a source of fiscal donations to finance the project), and I'm confident many other editors would gladly work under him.  And if he actually had the final say (as opposed to the perhaps overly-democratic Collaborative project), all joining the project would have to understand that they may have different ideas, but that they are trying to work towards Ady's vision when joining that project.

That's what I mean.  He's obviously a good leader, and others are willing to follow him and help out.  I just feel like he'd have more success getting through his projects with a team of CGI and physical model-building wizards.

Sad but true.  But as I pointed out, emanswfan and aalenfae are very gifted.  TMBTM is another candidate.  I'm sure there are others at fanedit.org.  But in the end, I understand it's Ady's game and Ady's rules.  I just think he might be more successful with a little help.

Maybe I got something wrong but didn't Ady also announce an 1080p version once he switched from HDTV sources to the BluRay ?

Of course, if he keeps the source effects files, it wouldn't be too difficult to render them again for a 1080p Revisited? Right? Right ?! (Sorry, overly exited).

Now, from someone who does not care at all for the Sequel and has only passing interest in seeing the Prequel trilogy edited, purely out of curiosity - it think working on several project at once could be both easier for Ady, as he said, and keep him interested and productive.

I'm not sure why is everyone concerned about "continuity"? Wasn't a big pint of this forum exactly to preserve the Originals without bothering about continuity with the newer movies ? Maybe it's a cultural thing but if I don't like something Star Wars - related, I have no issues just ignoring it's existence.

I appreciate Ady's work because it's mostly related to updating visual effect (hopefully audio too) and actual film errors (reverse shots, props, etc.) rather than story or characters editing.

True, ANH:R did have some more drastic changes than TESB:R but Ady also released a Purist edition.

PS. I have to admit I am very intrigued what emanswfan can pull off with his edit of the Prequels video. It's not necessary but it would be great if the editors can collaborate on their edits, IMHO.

timdiggerm said:

There is a shortage of those kinds of wizards in these parts.

 Has anyone checked various sci-fi scale modeling communities such as starshipmodeler.com or scalemodeladdict.com ? There are some truly fantastic modelers there that might be glad to help.

I certainly would but I haven't built any scale models in years and I wasn't that good to begin with...

Burdokva said:

a big pint of this forum

I'm sold!

TV's Frink said:

Burdokva said:

a big pint of this forum

I'm sold!

Cheers!

EDIT:  I don't care about continuity with the coming films at all.