STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 1080

doubleofive said:

2012: None, actual hard drive failure

I always thought it was coincidence that happened on April 1st, but my laptop's hard drive failed completely today (didn't backup either).  I guess it's not that uncommon for hard drives to go out on April Fool's Day.

Dang.  I thought he was "banned" last year.  Time flies as you get old.

Is your donation for ESB:R already done?

I saw your facebook page and was impressed about your hard work with models, green screens and more ... so I decided to donate some money for the project.

adywan said:

I just posted this over on the facebook page:

Ok, now we've got April 1st out of the way i can now make an announcement about the future of the Revisited saga. I will no longer be working on ROTJ:R after i have finished ESB:R.........

 

Oh no, i will be working on ALL 5 REMAINING HD VERSIONS OF THE SAGA.

I know, it it probably the most insane thing i could ever attempt; TPM:R, AOTC:R, ROTS:R, ROTJ:R and ANH:R-HD all being done simultaneously. Why have i gone completely insane and decide to do this? Well its all to do with logistics. For the PT i really need to film extra scenes, new characters and this also goes for some extra stuff needed for ROTJ. If i can find people to fill these roles then wouldn't it be easier for me to get the filming done in one or a few big shoots instead of trying to get everyone back throughout the years of making these?

Also it would stop me getting bored with doing the same movie or grind to a halt because i'm stuck on a certain shot. While i'm planning ROTJ:R i can be doing the ground work on the PT, working out how i can accomplish all the things i want to do and even if these ideas can work.

I'll start off with a complete colour correction of all films, making the PT look closer to the OT in terms of colouring and a little less like they were shot on HD cameras, but more like 35mm film. These films need to match visually when watching 1-6. The PT are most likely going to be shorter films than they are now. Probably coming in at around 1hr 30mins.

So what do i have planned for the PT?......

C-3P0 will NOT be built by anakin or even work on the Lars farm. He won't even see Tatooine until Ep4. Instead he will be attached to Amidala/ Padme. After all he is a protocol droid. Why the hell would Anakin build a protocol droid for his Mum?

Anakin NEVER referred to as Vader and Vader will be the one storming the Jedi Temple, not Anakin ( and no youngling slaughter either). If things plan out how i envision then you won't know that Anakin and Vader are one and the same until ESB

Anakin's turn to the dark side will not have anything to do with the thought of Padme dying in childbirth. It will be switched back to the original storyline that George even started filming, that it will be a seduction of power.

NO BLOOODY MIDI-CHLORIANS.

And hopefully a certain Moff will make more of an appearance throughout the final prequel too....

And thats just a few things.

This is logical I guess... But what is Illogical is that it will take a hell of a long time for ROTJ Revisited to come out... But I guess it is the way it is and you have your reasons no doubt...

Does this mean that different films of the 5 left after ESB Revisited will be released as and when any particular one is done... Or is there a plan to release in the order you originally intended OT first then PT?

The only problem I can see with this plan is when it comes to raising funds.

If they will need raising.

While I have no doubt some of us have contributed money purely out of the wish for Ady to have the means to continue to work on these projects most people probably have more of an eye on the finished product than the process of making it.

If there is not a hint of a whisper of release time for any one project people may generally lose interest (it's amazing that it's lasted all this time) and if they do that would mean all future projects will be in jeopardy if the money runs out.

The release of ESB:R will give the general Revisited mission a boost.

People will want to see the next part next and it makes sense to work on ANH:R HD at the same time.

It makes sense to work on PT:R as a single unit too.

It may also make sense to do a bit of PT work at the same time as a bit of remaining OT work to keep busy while waiting for model A to be built or footage C to be filmed.

But my advice would be to keep the idea of the remaining OT:R projects as the main priority. While no fixed deadlines can be given at least that way people will see them as the next "coming soonish" projects have an eye on the horizon and not lose enthusiasm over time.

My only problem is the lack of Ric Olie updates.

I know that its been said that these edits ignore the expanded universe, and the changes to the PT might not mesh with the new Disney movies. I wonder, though, if the changes will conflict with the Clone Wars TV series?

Films are films, cartoons, comics, books and games are cartoons, comics, books and games.

As much as I love most of them I don't think anyone here cares if Revisited contradicted for example the Marvel Comics and I see The Clone Wars series in the same way.

Episode VII might be a different issue (especially if it's a good film).

Wow. Just....wow. I've never made a secret of the fact that I've always been more excited by the prospect of a fixed prequel trilogy rather than minor fixes to the OT. Helping with these films and following the project just got a whole lot more exciting!

Bingowings said:

Films are films, cartoons, comics, books and games are cartoons, comics, books and games.

As much as I love most of them I don't think anyone here cares if Revisited contradicted for example the Marvel Comics and I see The Clone Wars series in the same way.

Episode VII might be a different issue (especially if it's a good film).

I certainly would hope that the TV series would not affect the final result of PT:R. I just didn't know if anyone who knew more details would know. It was more of a curiosity (and a small personal wish) than anything.

I very much hope that Episode VII will fit in, though.

adywan said:

The thing is, if i wait around to see everything that happens in the new films, i won't even be able to start planning the rest of the saga until 2015 at the earliest. That's hell of a long time to do nothing. I can't even work on ROTJ because there are a few things i want to change. Take the ending, for example. If i manage to pull off the new ending i am planning then what happens if the new film has evens that completely contradict what i have done? Do i scrap everything and have to stay with the original ending? What if i change Hayden's ghost back to Shaw, and he ends up popping up in the new ones as a ghost? What happens if there is something that i have to change in the prequels in order for a new subplot or something like that to work and then the original way is referenced in this new movie?

The Revisited edits were planned long before there was even mention of a new trilogy, so there is no way i am going to scrap everything or put the whole thing on hold until the whole new trilogy is complete, which is what i would have to do if i were to make it so there were no continuity problems between all 3 trilogies.

So the new films, along with the EU and any other Star Wars related stuff is going to have any influence on the 6 film Revisited Saga.

I don't think anyone here would want you to wait at all. What I meant was that I hope the new movies, if through nothing else but pure dumb luck, work with the continuity that you are establishing.

Perhaps we should send a work print to JJ Abrams and "demand" he adhere to it? ;-)

I completely agree with your reasoning and you should just keep it to the six films without regard for EU or ST.  A few logistical suggestions for Adywan, if I may:

1) I would begin to expand your team.  You are certainly quite talented and should have final say over all elements, but I think you deserve help.  Emanswfan is color correcting the PT to look more like film and better match the OT.  Pulling him officially onto your team could get a lot of the work done faster.  He also was willing to take over the ROTJ project I first suggested, so he certainly has the enthusiasm to help out on that film (not to mention he likes a lot of the ideas our little group came up with together ;)  ).

2) I know that your primary effort is to make to PT match the OT and not the other way around, but a few minor changes to the OT will drastically ease that transition.  I believe Brash pointed out how to fix such things in the Unofficial thread, and I believe that at a minimum Obi-wan's mention that Vader was a pupil of his should be removed from ANH.  It's not quite the purist thing to do, but unless you manage to film and composite a new apprentice and convince everyone that this new character is interacting with Obi-wan and other characters and is the one to turn evil, I think that simple line removal is the best way to ease that problem and allay the audience's suspicions.

3) Victory-class Star Destroyers are non-negotiable and must be included, preferably in ROTJ, though I wouldn't mind additional inclusion in the PT ;)  Okay, maybe that's not very logistical.

4) Also more of a story suggestion, but I worked with daneditor to come up with a way to give Boba Fett a more deserving death.  And considering all he put together came simply from various fanedits of questionable quality, I'm sure you can put something even better together and fit it into the movie in a similar way.  I urge you to check out his experimental and incomplete edit to see what he did.

5) I know emanswfan did wish to take over the Collaborative ROTJ edit, but that is far down the road.  If he were to join your team as I suggested in point 1, I encourage you to consider several of the other ideas we came up with together.

Adywan - I don't post here often, but I wanted to say a very big thank you for all of your hard work and effort on these truly special editions!  (This also goes for ever single person who helped you along the way: thank you!)

When I watched ANH:R a few years back, it rekindled my love for Star Wars that had waned over the past decade!  (And also made me lament again at how good the prequels could have been...)

I've thought about trying my hand at fixing the prequels for a while now, but don't have the skill to do so.  (My idea was to make Ep 2 into an Ep 1, and then split Ep 3 into Eps 2 and 3)

While the existing prequel fanedits are very good - none have done the major overhaul that most, I assume, feel is needed.  I'm very much looking forward to ESB:R and then ROTJ:R and the prequels!

Thank you again!

Some changes could be explained through just altering your perspective while watching the ST.

Say in ROTJ:R Boba Fett doesn't end up in the Sarlacc (I have no idea if this is the case it's just an example) and in the ST they make a big thing about Fett being eaten by the Sarlacc, now there you can just say at some point, later than ROTJ:R Fett got himself eaten by a Sarlacc (there must be more than one of the things).

Similarly if Hayden comes back as Anakin Ghostwalker you can watch the film and think at some point Anakin's ghost stopped appearing as the old guy Luke just met and started to look like the young guy he has read a lot about and probably seen holograms of.

It's more difficult if you kill of someone you know or strongly suspect is going to be in the ST.

Leia survived the theatrical OT and the SE and Carrie Fisher is strongly rumored to be returning so it doesn't make sense to kill her off because it's impossible to think your way out of it without a Genesis torpedo.

I hope they throw us lots of clever surprises but some things are going to be easy to spot and dodge.

As you know I'm more for giving him something to do in the film rather than waiting around to get killed but maybe Ady is just using Boba as an example.

I'm known to be sneaky but even I couldn't get Ady to fess up to beheading the bounty hunter :-D

Wow, crossed feelings about this. On one hand, I fully support your decission of optimizing the times of work in order not to loose time, as this means more Revisited, more material, more updates, and thus more donations and eventually, more followers.

On the other hand, your OT work has very clear goals. Keeping aside ROTJ:R, which allows more space to play, OT:R is pretty much an intervention of brilliant technique centered in audiovisual changes/improvements.

Even ROTJ:R is included in this, for it is the closing chapter after two untouched episodes, and you (and we) know what would be happening in the end of the movie, so whatever plot changes you will be doing on this one, they will be done in an evident direction, reassuring the quality of every creative decission made.

But with PT:R, I hoped you took your time to think, to design (or re design) the structure of the films. You've posted several things that will be in/out the movie for granted, though the thing with the PT is that those movies are such a mess that there are plenty of choices to be made, of which your tips are just the beginning. And since you have top-notch abbilities to sort out a lot of challenges, it would be a shame if you hadn't explored all the possibilities both plot and visually wise. What I'm trying to say (and my english isn't helping) is that you can "make" the revisited OT on the road, because it has linear parameters (I'm not talking about the logistics), but you would need to stop and think about the prequels as an organic thing if you are to really squeeze something good out of the existing footage. Therefore, I'm not sure PT:R could be "made" without being designed.

I don't know, I always thought of it as a different moment in your production, with new and different challenges. Before I say this, I want to make as clear as I can, that I understand these edits are your babies and no one else's, so I don't mean to plebiscite your decissions at all, but I think an interesting thing to do would be to unfold your work into PT:R plot and visual "ideas" while you work in ROTJ:R, and then, after Jedi is out, make a retrospective re-evaluation of those plot ideas (and their feedback, would you let us fans suggest plot wise?) and start on proper work, centered in the visuals just as OT:R is now, which isn't so experimental.

adywan said:

so if i kill off Boba Fett , and that there would be no way he could possibly survive, yet he turns up in the ST then how do you explain that? you can't. I'm not prepared to tie myself down to anything that may appear in the new films. Sorry, but Revisited will only be able to be watched as a 6 films saga, unless by some miracle nothing conflicts with the new films.

Knock his block off anyway and then if he shows up in the ST then you will have to pretend that he was only a clone.. A doppleganger... Best bounty hunter in the galaxy could do such a thing.

I totally feel that you should not get caught up in terms of any new films... I'd actually go as far to say that if you even stopped at the OT with your edits I would be absolutely satisfied as that's all that will ever matter to me... The PT I went to cinema to see everyone of them and every time just felt completely meh, ok new star wars special edition stuff is quite cool.

The only part of the PT that was any good was the bit where they tied to the OT at the end of ROTS in my humble opinion

If you said now I am only going to re-do episode VI and finish V and VI and not touch the PT I would actually be happier... But It's up to you how far you want to take this project.

It's growing beyond what it started out as... Nothing wrong with that but, better to focus on completing the first goal you set yourself before taking on a whole quintology at the same time, ESB:R is not finished yet....

I'd even be happy with DVD quality ANH:R still looks great to me

If you decide to go for 5 films simultaneously I would listen to mithrandir... Focus on getting ROTJ out and make low quality rough edits of the PT so you know what you need to do then tackle that bit simultaneously before you start the PT proper so you can piece your ideas together quickly and play before commiting to doing all 5 at once.