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dark_jedi said:

... we only use Verbatim blanks, nothing else so please do not even ask, we want good burns with no CRC errors and we want the BD's to last! so only Verbatim blanks will be accepted, I am sure you guys want them to last and have no read errors as well right?

If that's the case, you might want to reconsider Verbatim. This from the Doom9 forum http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149108&page=29 :

"I've started testing my oldest Smartblu discs. I've scanned a number of them from 16-19 months old. I thought you might appreciate hearing that they are holding their quality very well. LDC averages at that age still down in the 2-6 range. Better than most of my Verbatim burns straight after burning. Verbatims are showing a little higher rate of degradation, but still readable."

That thread's end pages have other bits of good, up-to-date information. Technology doesn't stand still (nor do the changing to lesser-quality 3rd party manufacturers, like with TDK).

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Spaced Ranger: Burning at very slow speed is often also mentioned as increasing the chances of the disk remaining 100% readable for long periods of time. So that seems to help, also.

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And I've never had a coaster with Verbatims. I actually use memorex for all my dual layer DVDs but when I picked up a memorex BD-R 25 my Sony drive wouldn't even recognize it. Garbage :(

 

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Thanks to those that have sent PM's already, I will respond to them soon, well just as soon as I figure out what exactly I am going to do here, I personally have just ordered 75 BD cases(Viva Elites) and this is where I need to slow down on my personal spending, I have spent a lot of money on all these projects already, including gear, multiple copies of BD's and DVD's from all over the World etc.

I know I would like to do something different this time around by including\offering your movie in a BD case with art, but I have to pay for the art, it comes printed obviously and already cut to size, then the slips are also already made and cut to size and just slip over the case, and then the cases will cost a little more to ship, but this would be a nice package instead of just a BD in a sleeve sent to you, I will try and figure something out, hell I even have custom slipcovers made for our Conan The Barbarian and Night of The Living Dead 1990 projects, not to many projects out there include a Blu-ray slipcover lol, this was a really nice touch and they look great! as of right now I did not have plans to make any slips for the SW films, I guess it would be nice but I am not sure.

So as you see I still have some sorting to figure out, I really want to do something nice for those that donate this time around since we will NOT be revisiting these titles again, this is it, we are done and moving on, we have a lot of great ideas for non SW projects that we really want to get on with, so there will be no more versions of the OT or the 97 SE!

Thanks

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Just wanna add that with "no more versions of the OT or the 97 SE", DJ means after ESB and ROTJ are both finished.

As for slipcovers I'd say save your money DJ. At least for me they're not worth the extra cost since they actually serve no purpose other than looking good. And the BD cases will still look good on their own!

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You_Too said:

Just wanna add that with "no more versions of the OT or the 97 SE", DJ means after ESB and ROTJ are both finished.

As for slipcovers I'd say save your money DJ. At least for me they're not worth the extra cost since they actually serve no purpose other than looking good. And the BD cases will still look good on their own!

LOL of course you are right, I did not mean to stop after SW and ANH lol, but after both Trilogies are done, so are we, it is time to move on to other movies than need our attention.

Thanks You_Too for clearing that up.

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@poita: Actually that's pretty much how the scene should look. Like I said before I've been through these settings about 30 times or maybe even more, back when I did the color correction and in the end I've gotten very sure I got the best result I possibly could.

Even though it looks green at first glance, it's actually how it should look when all colors are brought back the way we did. Considering the downsides of the GOUT of course.

Just check the scan of that scene on jedi1: <a href="http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Galactic_Empire-02144-1600.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Galactic_Empire-02144-1600.jpg" target="_blank" title="www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Galactic_Empire-02144-1600.jpg">http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Galactic_Empire-02144-1600.jpg</a>

Even Vader has a green tone there.

I appreciate that everybody is trying to help but it's way too late for that, and I'm very confident that the color correction got the best possible result so I'm not even considering going back to that point again. I hope everybody understands this.


I didn't realise it wasn't a scene by scene process, and I fully understand you not wanting to revisit the colour any more after putting so much work in and getting a far better result than the original GOUT. I think it looks fantastic in comparison.

I have no doubt that the scans are a bit green tinged either, it is a common problem with scanners and with aging film and film duplication.


There appears to be some fluorescent lighting in that scene, which could account for the green tone.

I can't speak to the accuracy of the scans, but those ANH films cels that were sold by Willitts are pretty stable color-wise, as are the Willitts ESB cels. The Willitts ROTJ cels are turning pink, however. They're on a different film stock.

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Spaced Ranger said:

dark_jedi said:

... we only use Verbatim blanks, nothing else so please do not even ask, we want good burns with no CRC errors and we want the BD's to last! so only Verbatim blanks will be accepted, I am sure you guys want them to last and have no read errors as well right?

If that's the case, you might want to reconsider Verbatim. This from the Doom9 forum http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149108&page=29 :

"I've started testing my oldest Smartblu discs. I've scanned a number of them from 16-19 months old. I thought you might appreciate hearing that they are holding their quality very well. LDC averages at that age still down in the 2-6 range. Better than most of my Verbatim burns straight after burning. Verbatims are showing a little higher rate of degradation, but still readable."

That thread's end pages have other bits of good, up-to-date information. Technology doesn't stand still (nor do the changing to lesser-quality 3rd party manufacturers, like with TDK).

Firstly, good to see you back D_J

Now you have to be careful when buying Verbatim. They're not all the same quality. If possible, use only ones manufactured in Singapore. The ones made in India are rubbish and just don't give such a high quality burn as the Singapore ones. Plus they degrade , but not as much as other makes.

 

Fingers crossed these will make their way to usenet because i can't wait to get my hands on these.

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adywan said:

Spaced Ranger said:

dark_jedi said:

... we only use Verbatim blanks, nothing else so please do not even ask, we want good burns with no CRC errors and we want the BD's to last! so only Verbatim blanks will be accepted, I am sure you guys want them to last and have no read errors as well right?

If that's the case, you might want to reconsider Verbatim. This from the Doom9 forum http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149108&page=29 :

"I've started testing my oldest Smartblu discs. I've scanned a number of them from 16-19 months old. I thought you might appreciate hearing that they are holding their quality very well. LDC averages at that age still down in the 2-6 range. Better than most of my Verbatim burns straight after burning. Verbatims are showing a little higher rate of degradation, but still readable."

That thread's end pages have other bits of good, up-to-date information. Technology doesn't stand still (nor do the changing to lesser-quality 3rd party manufacturers, like with TDK).

Firstly, good to see you back D_J

Now you have to be careful when buying Verbatim. They're not all the same quality. If possible, use only ones manufactured in Singapore. The ones made in India are rubbish and just don't give such a high quality burn as the Singapore ones. Plus they degrade , but not as much as other makes.

 

Fingers crossed these will make their way to usenet because i can't wait to get my hands on these.

Hey Ady very nice to hear from you as well, it has been a long time since we chatted, and I know what you mean on Singapore Verbatims, but I think this is for the DVD9 Verbs, I have yet to see BD-r Verbs made in Singapore, I just looked through old packaging and some that I have now on hand and it seems that the BD25's are made in Taiwan and the BD50's are made in Japan, I have seen nothing so far on Singapore or India, now I could be wrong but could this be for the DVD9 Verbs only?

And don't worry Ady, you will get these, all of them! I will personally make sure of it for all the help and guidance you have given me over the years here, and thank you very much for the interest in our project, we all appreciate it very much and we hope you like them.

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You also might want to look at Blu Ray Media: TDK Review
http://blog.consumerpla.net/2011/02/blu-ray-media-tdk-disks-review.html where the comments are telling ...

... and the entire review starting at Blu Ray Media: Best BD-R Discs Review (yes, Verbatim is mentioned)
http://blog.consumerpla.net/2011/02/blu-ray-media-best-bd-r-discs-review.html

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Dunedain said:

Burning at very slow speed ...

Too slow can be just as detrimental to "a good burn" as maximum speed:

MAM-A Archival Discs - FAQ
http://www.mam-a-store.com/faqs.html

"When duplicating an analog tape, recording at the lowest speed yields the highest quality recording. For optical discs (CD-R, DVD-R, Blu-ray), this is not true. As a rule of thumb, we find that the best recording is roughly at half the top rated speed."

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Spaced Ranger said:

You also might want to look at Blu Ray Media: TDK Review
http://blog.consumerpla.net/2011/02/blu-ray-media-tdk-disks-review.html where the comments are telling ...

... and the entire review starting at Blu Ray Media: Best BD-R Discs Review (yes, Verbatim is mentioned)
http://blog.consumerpla.net/2011/02/blu-ray-media-best-bd-r-discs-review.html

I don't care how much my BD-R cost, I want the best which is Verbatim.

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

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Did I miss getting the BDs?  CRAP!!!!

I've got better things to do tonight than die! - Springer, Transformers the Movie

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vbangle said:

I don't care how much my BD-R cost, I want the best which is Verbatim.

You forgot ...

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Spaced Ranger: That's interesting. I would have thought that the increased dwell time of the slower speed would result in the dyes being more fully changed and thus more likely to remain easier to read for longer. But maybe the dyes change best within a certain range of laser exposure, and thus the medium burn speeds, say 2-3x on a BD-R, work best.

By the way, anyone who has dark_jedi's V3 DVD set, I'd like to get the full resolution image files for the V3 DVD case artwork for the trilogy included in that set, as seen on page 1 of this thread. Please PM me if you have them available. I have some other very nice Star Wars trilogy covers in a variety of styles I can send in return if you like. Thanks for any help, it's much appreciated. :)

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chyron8472 said:

Why do you say Verbatim is the best blank media?

Why do you want to continue discussing off topic? PM me instead please.

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What a pleasant fellow.  I love seeing that someone responded in this thread and realizing that it was vbangle supplying more of his omniscient wisdom.

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darth_ender said:

What a pleasant fellow.  I love seeing that someone responded in this thread and realizing that it was vbangle supplying more of his omniscient wisdom.

Ouch someone give me towel to cry into.

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doubleKO: Thanks for the covers. :) If you'd like some other styles, let me know. :)

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Hey guys we have a request for you, can someone here make us up some artwork for our releases? we are specifically looking for OT 3-disc art and 97 SE 3-disc art as well as 6-disc art that will have all our releases in 1 BD case, we are hoping some here will be able to help us with this, but keep in mind that the 3-disc cases dimensions are pretty much the same as the single disc, but the 6-disc case has a much bigger spine, and I only use Viva Elite cases, hell I think they are the only ones to make a case that holds that many anyways lol.

Thanks and hope to hear from someone to give us a hand on this.

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I'm glad this project is rolling still.  It's tough getting team-mates together to do projects.  I got really bummed out when the DTS auido project for the SE quietly slowed to a halt.  Who knows, maybe I cursed the project.

Anyways, thanks for what's happening with the SE here.  I'm excited to see something like this come to fruition after other projects helped spark the interest further.  I'm twitchy while I await it's arrival.

Cheers!!!!

 

 

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Yes we have a very fine Team, You_Too and I have become very good friends and my menu guy has been a friend for a long time as well, we all understand each others time schedule and we all just gel very well, we will hopefully be together for a long time to come and release a bunch more "non Star Wars" projects after these are done, all 3 of us have tons of ideas and we try our hardest to get them to pass, and our 4th member for the Conan project I have worked with before on the ESB Imperial Edition DVD, he has become a very good friend as well, he really is a super nice guy, the whole Team is super cool to work with, but unfortunately the 4th partner has said that he is done after Conan, we really would love to see him stay but he said he is done and is moving on, here is to hoping he changes his mind, fingers crossed.

 

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Wish I could be of help with the artwork, thought the ones on the first page looked great. Would be really cool to have 3 disc and 6 disc art though!