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Post #628385

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walkingdork
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Religion
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19-Mar-2013, 9:56 PM

Bingowings said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

     "...from my perspective" sums up the misunderstanding.

    The sad truth is, with regard to these matters, we pitiful little creatures DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CALLED A PERSPECTIVE!!! We don't even count as mosquitos in camparison to a surgeon.

     Even so, the unattuned can gain the knowledge they require. They just have to work harder for it (see The Apostle Thomas.)

     The Universe is far from finished. Scripture tells us that it is groaning. The six stages were the initial creation.

     "With great power comes great responsibility." Humans expect their high chiefs to judge and set the wrongs right. God is the only one who can fulfill that need. "Give every man as he deserves and who would scape whipping?" What if the creator doesn't want to give all of his creations what they deserve? How could he escape the imperative to condemn according to human logic (Man was not made for the Sabbath but the Sabbath for man.) Jesus is that way out.

       Do you know what would happen to those male children or women? Would they die in the desert or be taken by men who would give them worse treatment? What would happen to the nation that doesn't show that they mean business according to the standard of the time? Doesn't perceived weakness invariably encourage aggressors and lead to even more war and suffering? Do you know what happens to a society that plays too much with it's penises in unnatural ways? What happens if men stop caring enough about the next generation? Tear down and destroy the people who do care? History indicates it might be very bad. It might be the thing that tips the balance and drags us to totalitarianism.

       All Universes are possible? What if this universe is Logically necessary to God's knowledge? The Forger problem might have some application. If a forgery is so convincing that there is no way to distinguish it from the original, is there any meaningful distinction? What if our universe IS a part of the perfect knowledge of God? It IS God knowing. People complain that God doesn't need to put us through this because he already knows the outcome. But if the knowledge is so complete and perfect that it is indistinguishable from the history of our universe, his knowledge could BE the history of our U. There would be no need to "Do it again in reality". It may be our reality. We are knowledge in the mind of God. 

      God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are the same entity viewed from different human perspectives at different points in time. God doesn't change. Humanity changes. The way you relate to a small child in the past will be quite different from the way you relate to a spouse today or that same child in the future. We can judge human conduct to some degree, but we don't have the most minute part of the information necessary to judge our creator.

      A Surgeon does radical, invasive, harmful, violative things to his patient. Is it therefore "evil"?

      These human jackals who come in the name of "compassion" are most often horrifying tyrants. Depravity is a cruel sort of tyranny. Why should you prefer their tyranny? 

What do I get out of worshiping such an entity and what does it in turn get out of my genuflections?

 

I have never thought about this before. What does God get from all the beliefs and prayers?? Is he playing a real life version of Black & White? (a video game where you play God and gain villages and new powers)

Why is the biggest reason for going to hell because you don't believe in God (ignorance). If I was God I would just say, "Look guys this is how it works: If your good you to Heaven. If your bad, you go to hell"

I don't see Ghandi going to Hell in my world, but according to the Bible he's going to burn in Hell.