See, this is subjective. That's why we all have different point of views, because the value we attribute to words is not always the same. In my personal view of the world I exclude any metaphysics, therefore there is no God. Anybody else's view of the world, none of my business. It is their view, not mine.

The thing about a theist's view of the universe is that it puts metaphysics first, as a given, and then everything else should follow. That's why I understand it is hard to picture the point of view of a person like me. It's topsy turvy.

Look at Daffy here:

Daffy: Now what?!

Daffy: What are you doing down there?

Daffy: Down here? What are you doing up there? (to audience) Down here...!

Which one's up? Which one's down?