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Disney Acquires LucasFilm for $4.05 billion, Episode 7 in 2015, 8 and 9 to Follow, New Film Every 2-3 Years — Page 50

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georgec said:

I regret spoiling myself on pretty much everything going into ROTS. It was still a great experience (at the time...), but I think I could have enjoyed that film so much more if I didn't spoil myself silly with every tidbit and set shot in the months leading up to it.

I was spoiler free. It did not enhance the experience.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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timdiggerm said:

Was there really anything interesting in the film that one could spoil, if one had already seen the OT?

It was kind of interesting/surprising that it was the worst of the prequels.  I didn't really expect TPM would be as good as the prequels were going to get, even after seeing AOTC.

Dang, forgot the spoiler tag.  Hope I didn't ruin it for anyone.  Sorry.

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timdiggerm said:

Was there really anything interesting in the film that one could spoil, if one had already seen the OT?

It was the smaller details, like Anakin killing younglings or chopping of Mace's hand. Things like that you'd expect, but not explicitly knowing would be a bit more surprised upon seeing them.

Also Padme dying. Many people were wondering if it would happen. I suppose the movie tips its hand early that it will happen, but same as above. Impact slightly lessened.

Oh no, I'm thinking about ROTS again. It's all coming back to me. "No I'm so in love with YOU." Ohh, ohhh noooo.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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Good ole George confirms Ford, Fisher and Hamill all back. This is starting to feel surreal.

Liked his little dig at Disney, though. Apparently he's not a fan of big reveals and publicity stunts. Still, it worries me that he's involved enough to be the one to officially confirm all this.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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It's surreal were talking about new Star Wars movies, period.

As for ROTS spoilers, some of us were hoping to see the final fate of Jar Jar. ;)

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Where were you in '77?

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I was actually hoping that ROTS would be the Rosetta Stone that fixed the other two PT films and ROTJ.

The footage wouldn't change but somehow it would all suddenly make sense.

Pffffffffff.

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^Someone kept saying that it would work like that.  That you couldn't judge episodes I & II until you saw III and it was all in context, or something like that.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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George is going to be like that nagging mother-in-law who doesn't leave Kathleen and JJ alone, offering unsolicited advice at inopportune times.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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CatBus said:

timdiggerm said:

Was there really anything interesting in the film that one could spoil, if one had already seen the OT?

It was kind of interesting/surprising that it was the worst of the prequels.  I didn't really expect TPM would be as good as the prequels were going to get, even after seeing AOTC.

Dang, forgot the spoiler tag.  Hope I didn't ruin it for anyone.  Sorry.

 

Yeah I'm used to being in the minority with this one because I've always believed that TPM feels the most like an actual SW film and is in fact the better choice. It has the best lightsaber fight of the PT (it's streamlined compared to the Ani/Obi duel, and the death of Qui Gon actually felt heavy), and the 3rd act space battle/music sequence is superior too all other PT battles because lets face it, the Naboo starfighter is the coolest looking ship in all of the PT and John Williams was on fuckin fire that day.

TPM gets thrown out like the baby in the bath water because of Jar Jar which is a fair enough reason but if you ignore his presence the movie is closer to good than any of the other PT movies. 2-3 are just confusing both from a character standpoint and plot construction, while the main themes in TPM are pretty straightforward: Free the kid, win the race, kill the bad guy, free the planet. AOTC and ROTS are filled with tons of awesome eye candy that don't really amount to anything and the characters constantly do stupid things that don't make sense to who they are as people. Yep, with the better plot/music/hype TPM is my favorite PT movie. *ducks*

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Well, I have seen Q2's Fall of the Jedi fanedits, and I have decided that the prequels really aren't so bad. They're not not ZOMGFANTABULISTIC like the OOT, but they're really pretty good.

...so long as you watch the right fan edit. L8wrtr's Ep.2 edit is slightly better than Q2's Ep. 2, but his Ep 1 and Ep 3 edits are decidedly worse. You can't use L8wrtr's Ep. 2 with Q2's 1 and 3 though because Q2's has very different ideas on how to improve the prequels (such as removing the droids.)

 

So this shining-a-turd business about the prequels, for me, isn't quite so accurate. It would seem the underlying story isn't the part that's crap. It's just buried under bad acting by Jake Lloyd, whining by Hayden, eye-rolling anachronisms by 3PO, boring title crawls and poop jokesJar Jar Binks.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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The same stratagem was used for Prometheus and that mess survived.

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Twisty said:

TPM is my favorite PT movie.

Agreed, but this is much in the same way Dengue is my favorite hemorrhagic fever.  "Favorite" just doesn't seem quite the right word.  Least godawful more like.

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xhonzi said:

^Someone kept saying that it would work like that.  That you couldn't judge episodes I & II until you saw III and it was all in context, or something like that.

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I don't even understand how that could work.

Forgive the comparison, but the Marvel comic miniseries Earth X and Universe X were like that for me.  Until the ending I thought they were nice compilations of various vignettes that were unrelated... in the last 10 pages they reveal the key to the whole story and you realize what you were reading was all leading up to this perfect moment... and it made the previous content not only all related, but worth twice its sum.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Twisty said:

TPM gets thrown out like the baby in the bath water because of Jar Jar which is a fair enough reason but if you ignore his presence the movie is closer to good than any of the other PT movies.

I find Jake Lloyd to be twice as annoying as Jar Jar.  I can mentally fanedit Jar Jar from the movie as I watch it.  He's annoying fluff to be sure, but he's not the main event.

Hayden is terrible at his best, but I didn't find him as out of place as Jake Lloyd.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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I find almost everything in TPM has the narrative qualities of wet cardboard other than Jar-Jar who is more like having bleach smeared on my fingers.

When Liam Neeson is dull in a film something is wrong.

I say drag in Sean Bean and sacrifice him to the story gods.

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I haven't really seen any mention of Billy Dee Williams. The new republic needs a smooth operator!

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I'm pretty sure he wants in on this. He's been doing Lando on Robot Chicken and more recently Detours. Would be cool if we saw Lando's ship too. The version seen in Jedi Outcast was like a intergalactic bachelor pad. ;)

The real question is, who could play Lando's kids?

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bkev said:

Good ole George confirms Ford, Fisher and Hamill all back. This is starting to feel surreal.

Liked his little dig at Disney, though. Apparently he's not a fan of big reveals and publicity stunts. Still, it worries me that he's involved enough to be the one to officially confirm all this.

 

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bkev said:

Good ole George confirms Ford, Fisher and Hamill all back. This is starting to feel surreal.

Liked his little dig at Disney, though. Apparently he's not a fan of big reveals and publicity stunts. Still, it worries me that he's involved enough to be the one to officially confirm all this.

 

www.digitalbits.com had a nice article from Bloomberg.com I believe about the whole process of Disney buying Lucasfilm.

The jist of it is that Lucas was writing Episode 7 BEFORE he was approached by Disney, so he was going to do 3 more movies on his own. Disney CEO threw it out there about buying Lucasfilm, and Lucas balked. A few years later, Lucas had lunch again with the Disney CEO and said he was ready to sell.

The reason he didn't want to sell is that he didn't want to give up creative control of the SW universe because he knew it would be the first sentence on his gravestone, and was worried where anyone else would take the franchise if he relented.

So his compromise to Disney was he would sell, but he would keep his people in place running the SW opersation (Kathleen Kennedy), so he still has some input.

The article talks about when they start shooting it is Disney's final decision for anything in the movie, and Lucas cannot just come in at the end and edit it the way he wants it. The 64,000 dollar question, will Lucas be able to stay away from SW when they shooting Episode 7?

The fact that he already spilled the beans on the signing of Carrie, Harrison, and Mark tells me he won't go quietly.