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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
and to think they made an action figure of Ric Olie....

"now with super standing and saying one line ability!!"
COOL!!


I wish they'd marketed him as Captain Obvious.

"There's the blockade!"
"Coruscant! The entire planet is one big city!"
"Look, there's Chancellor Vallorum's shuttle! And there's Senator Palpatine!"
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Goering.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Goebbels.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - Orwell.
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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
and to think they made an action figure of Ric Olie....

"now with super standing and saying one line ability!!"
COOL!!


I wish they'd marketed him as Captain Obvious.

"There's the blockade!"
"Coruscant! The entire planet is one big city!"
"Look, there's Chancellor Vallorum's shuttle! And there's Senator Palpatine!"


LMAO!!
please tell me those arent his exact lines from the movie....
anyone who dares say that the script in this movie was good has just been given three great examples as to why it suffers...

LOL
"there's the blockade!"

that should keep me laughing for days..
"Never. I'll never turn to the darkside. You've failed your highness. I am a jedi, like my father before me."
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Si Bibble is the old guy from Naboo, right?

And yes. Those are his EXACT lines from the movie. Like I said, any character who exists soley to point out the obvious is unessacary.

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
we're never gonna see half of these characters again....
i dont care what anyone says here...

I think Lucas is making this all up as he goes along...
why do we have so many pointless characters...
they could have used major characters in these scenes to help further develop them...

and who the hell is Si Bibble?
LOL


I agree. AOTC made that clearer to me than anything. And Episode 3 isn't changing the "superfluous characters" quotient.

Luke, those are actual lines from the film! LOL!

The PT condescends to kids where the OT talks up to them.

I've always thought Panaka and Olie should've been the same character.



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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac[/bRic Olie's 'Irving The Explainer' type dialogue, where he just tells you what you're looking at, comes across not so much as character development but as bad exposition. He's like an in-movie audio commentary for the blind.



Fucking true and funny man!!

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
and to think they made an action figure of Ric Olie....

"now with super standing and saying one line ability!!"
COOL!!


I wish they'd marketed him as Captain Obvious.

"There's the blockade!"
"Coruscant! The entire planet is one big city!"
"Look, there's Chancellor Vallorum's shuttle! And there's Senator Palpatine!"


LMAO!!
please tell me those arent his exact lines from the movie....
anyone who dares say that the script in this movie was good has just been given three great examples as to why it suffers...

LOL
"there's the blockade!"

that should keep me laughing for days..



Yes luke my old mate, they were the exact lines from the film, which I've watched twice in the last 4 days, and enjoyed every minute of it.
I dunno, I quite like TPM. To me it's a little better than AOTC.

You see, on paper these films are really good.
I do think that Lucas has come up with a really good story here.
If you sit down and think about the way the characters meet, why certain things happen the way they do, etc,
you'll realise that it's very clever.
Lucas may not pull it off on screen, but talking about the story is actually more rewarding than watching the story.

He's (Lucas) quite clever you know, for a human being! -

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The PT condescends to kids where the OT talks up to them.



Absolutely excellent point. That's one of my main problems with the PT. Lucas thinks that he can make one film that will appeal to everone, if he includes something everybody likes. And that's just illogical, not only in art, but in life. Nothing appeals to everyone. What a real artist would do is create something that is geared towards one theme, but is done well enough that people are willing to cross over to appreciate it. And that's the OT did. I was 7 years old, but the dialogue with Han Solo was done so perfectly that I KNEW he was being sarcastic, and cocky, and whatever...and I could appreciate it!
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im sure the PT did look fine on paper...
no doubt about that...
but i think thats where Lucas should at least have the common sense to end his part there...

it worked before...
"Never. I'll never turn to the darkside. You've failed your highness. I am a jedi, like my father before me."
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.. It is much easier to come up with a good story than it is to give that story good dialogue.

I've tried.

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I just love looking to the past

Who remembers?
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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the past......before the dark times, before the PT and the se OT. the good old days. When I once thought Lucas was great.
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i remember the past, but i dont mind the PT one bit. i pretty much got what i expected of it, and no it wasnt/isnt bad at all. its good.
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Who remembers?


i remember all too well..

oh the days before the PT.... it seems like a dream now...
i only wish i could remember a day when i didnt look at Yoda like a hopping frog...

those were the days..
"Never. I'll never turn to the darkside. You've failed your highness. I am a jedi, like my father before me."
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I expected 1 thing form the prequels: Compotence. The disappointment is bitter.

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Well, I have to be honest here. I really didn't get all that caught up in the the whole hype for TPM. I had pretty much tried to ignore it. I couldn't escape it as it was everywhere but I did try to look on the whole thing as just media blitz. Therefore my expectations for TPM were probably a little more realistic. I wasn't all that exicted by the idea of a new Star Wars film. Odd considering how much the original trilogy meant so much to me. I guess something told me that it wasn't going to be the same and therefore I shouldn't get too excited about it. And I didn't. Until I was sitting in the theatre and the opening crawl began. After that, things began to go down hill.

Since I had ignored the hype and reviews (and even though I had read the novel for TPM before I saw it) I hadn't been all that prepared for how annoying Jar Jar really was. On paper, he seemed like just a bumbler that was just a little missunderstood. On screen, he was a pestilence that need to be exterminated. This became true of most of the alien characters in the movie. They just came off as bafoons. But I was forgiving. After all, this movie was just to set up the whole saga and the good stuff would come in episodes II and III (I'm still holing onto a mere thread of hope for ROTS but it's getting weaker by the day).

So, looking back, what did I really expect? I expected to see a film that would set up what was to come in the later flilms. Did I get that? Yes, but it sort of left a bad taste in my mouth. And it took me seeing it 4 times before everything that was wrong with this movie began to really set it. There was too much extraneous dialoge and explanation. I understand the precarious position Lucas is in. Here he has the middle three parts of a nine part saga filmed and beloved by millions. Now he has to go back and tell the beginning three and everyone pretty much already knows what is going to happen. How can he make them more interesting and still contain some plot surprises? From my point of view, Lucas is still trying to answer those questions. With two of the three films completed, he still hasn't made them interesting and there isn't any plot surprises.

The main thing I like about the original trilogy is that Lucas is telling me a great story with really great characters. The prequals just seem to lie there like a $2.00 whore. Yeah you get off, but was it all that great?

Lucas has painted himself into a corner. He knew this going into TPM. It's only gotten worse with AOTC. While I am interested in how Anakin became Vader, how Palpitine becomes Emperor and how the Republic fell, I just thought that this would be a more compelling story. The prequals seem to act like a compass without a magent. They seem to just go off on needless directions and they never really get to the 'meat' of the story or the characters. Lucas himself said on the AOTC DVD that several of the deleted scenes were cut because they were nice character development but that they didn't move the story along. That in itself says more to me about Lucas' view of the prequals than anything else. He's sacrifised character and story to showcase CG technology. It's now all about 'look what I can do and isn't it spectacular!' 'Yes, it is but what you did back in 77 was specatular too.' Would be my answer to that.

I just expected more of a story and didn't get much. AOTC was a little better but not much.

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He said he cut the scenes for time. TIME!!?!?!

Fellowship of the ring had just come out three months ago. It was almost three hours long and it was STILL making money! And Lucas thinks that adding a few minutes worth of character development will make it too slow?

He needs to stick to the story and let someone else direct and edit.

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