Monroville said:
Bingowings said:
Your top example is nearest in light conditions to the ESB:R image and there I see blueish snow and orangey skin.
What is different is a white light source aimed behind the standing figure which I can only assume was added by the photographer.
Ady could add a faux light source to the shot but it would create an issue of continuity which might throw up ugly lit shots either side of this one.
We really have to see these shots in context to appreciate them.
Ady is generous with his previews but it does lead to a lot of navel gazing, only some of which is of value (though it's impossible to tell which is unless you are working at the chalkface so it's best to keep eyeballing that belly button lint).
Ah boy... Bingo, I'm not going to get pulled into a back-and-forth. I stated fairly clearly that the reason the boy has normal skin tone is because the light source is above and behind the camera, lighting the boy and the ground immediately behind him. It's a fill light (similar to the scene in SCARFACE when Tony is making the call after the chainsaw scene on the pier. With the orange setting sun behind him, DePalma needed a fill light so you could see him and the background sunset. If there wasn't a fill light on the kid, he would be extremely dark as the picture was exposed to get the surrounding landscape).
Regardless, maybe it's just a thing to see in motion. I'm just saying I'm not sure if Luke would have such reddish skin tone if the surrounding ambient light is dark blue.
Even so, you can be insulting and call this navel gazing, but the entire point (I thought) of Ady posting such pictures was to get feedback and ideas. I can't make Ady change anything, but I can provide my personal perspective. That is all.
What is interesting is that it looks like EMPIRE:R is going back to the look of the 2004 dvd (at least with the specific "Luke sees Obi Wan" scene):Adywan's The Empire Strikes Back: Revisited - Lukes Rescue (go to 2:40)
EMPIRE:Revisited:
EMPIRE: 2004 dvd:
I do find this one shot to be a concern. In the old comparison video you linked to, the snow looks white. I never liked the whole "snow should look blue" thing. I'm surprised this shot is turning out so blue when it was previously shown to be corrected. I wonder what the reasoning is?
EDIT: Just read Adywan's comments further down. I guess the saturation was over-boosted in the captures? And I guess there was always some blue in those shoots. I guess I've just never been a fan of the blue snow look myself.