CP3S said:
I knew you did, because I am pretty sure we've talked about them before. I just followed Ender's lead without thinking, then right after making my post, I read yours saying you have, realized of course you have, and edited my post. Must have missed my edit.
*AHEM* I made my post at 4:00 XDT. You made your edit at 4:02 XDT.*
I think your comments on having just learned The Hobbit underwent major revisions struck us an something that would come from someone who was not yet a Tolkien initiate. Must be one of those guys who skips all the forwards and other pages at the beginning of a book and skip right to Chapter One, otherwise you would have read Tolkien's in universe explanation of the true events that took place in The Hobbit and Bilbo's lies that were found in the book and found yourself scratching your head because the true events were what you read in the book.
1. I probably did skip the forward. As stupid as this may sound, I usually only read the forwards of a book once I've finished the proper portion of it and I want to read more about it. Especially if the forward is more than a couple of pages. Yes, it's like having appetizers after the meal... but what are you going to do?
2. I learned about the revised chapter many years ago, perhaps on this very forum. What I didn't realize until the other day was that it was part of a larger rewrite effort that went unpublished. I see Tolkienites mention often the revised chapter, but I've not read about the total rewrite before.
3. I'm not a Tolkienite. I consider myself a casual LotR fan... probably know more about it than the average bear, but not compared to actual Tolkienites. But it doesn't mean I haven't read teh books, seen the movies, bought some action figures, etc...
In other words,
C3PS said
"I encourage you to read the forward to the book, xhonzi."
Fixed.
Oh yeah, and the appendices are fun too.
And then, and only then, I will be a Jedi Knight? Okay, I guess I'll go home and read the forward. Then I can be a cool kid again.
RE: Ocs and Goblins
I don't know where I picked this up, because it's apparently not in the movies or the books, but I thought the same thing about orcs and goblics- that orcs were slightly larger, tougher, and could be in daylight, and goblins lived underground. If it doesn't have a tail, it's not a monkey, and if it doesn't have a tail- it's an ape, kind of thing. I was always a bit confused what Azog and... Sloth were. They plainly aren't regular orcs/goblins and they're not uruks...