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New dialogue found (more may be coming) A&E's Empire of Dreams

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I am sure most of you know about this by now, but A&E will be airing a special on the Star Wars trilogy titled EMPIRE OF DREAMS. In it, it will have cast interviews (current interviews mind you) and behind the scenes footage. Well, one of those scenes (that I have seen) is of Leia and Vader standing with Tarkin as Alderaan is destroyed. The footage is without the special effects and even has someone yelling (BANG) to signify the destruction of the planet. Anyways, at the end of the clip Leia looks down, exasperated and says "You call yourselves human".

Now I watched ANH again last night, and the shot used is not there. So it makes it difficult to put it in the film. I would almost need another shot from earlier in the scene with either Leia's head down or her looking away as not to see her mouth move. Because right after the planet is destroyed, we cut to Obi-Wan on the MF 'feeling' the planet being destroyed.

Just thought I would share.

Here is the clip.
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Great clip HL, thanks for posting. Good to see Harrison a bit more animated than usual.

Thanks
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This is interesting stuff. And that BANG! shout is hilarious! Great to see moviemaking like this - the good old style where you just had to make good with what you had "physically" and not this over reliance on that neverending computer generated stuff. I can´t wait to see the full 2 1/2 hour doc, hopefully with lots of old footage and interviews to see. September 20th can´t come soon enough!

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For those of you that haven't seen the other clips, take a look at this site:

A&E

There's a trailer and several clips from the soon to be aired / release doco.

J

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I've done a mock up of how I would put this dialogue into the film. Of course, I will have to wait for the program to air to get a better source material. I just wanted to put something together so that I could see where I could fit it in and get it to flow right.

By using the existing cut and merely adding the footage and dialogue of "And you call yourself human", it gives the scene closure. Before, we had a quick cut to Ben on the MF. This was good for effect, but we never really got Leia's response to the destruction of her people.
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Wasn't this in the Lost Cut? I know Brian Daily expanded greatly on the scene for the radio drama. Leia pleades with Tarkin not to do it through out the scene. I liked it better than the silence of the original. If I remember, afterwards we find out that Alderaan did have a small planetary defense system. Too little, too late, eh?

I'll definately record this on the 12th. Assuming that they show the entire documentry, that pretty much removes any reason that might have existed for me to even rent this set.


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great find!
i'm looking forward to seeing this special...
hopefully Lucas will contradict himself yet again...
after all it is what he is famous for...
"Never. I'll never turn to the darkside. You've failed your highness. I am a jedi, like my father before me."
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I heard it's being cut down to fit in a two-hour timeslot, so instead of all two-and-a-half hours of the documentary that'll be on the DVD, A&E will only show about 90 minutes of it or so.
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So the A&E documentary will also be on the dvd set that comes out Sept 20th?
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
Can someone digitally capture it that has the ability and possibly make it avaiable as a torrent?

I hate to "tape" something off TV, if you know what I mean.



I'll be doing a digital capture on my TV card so that I can use the footage. I've already created the matte, choosen what part of the score to add and what other footage to reuse to flesh out the scene. It doesn't really change anything, just the perspective. All I need now is a higher res version of the clip, and of course a better audio source for the line.
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I've looked at Star Wars: A New Hope - Revised 4th draft script and this line of dialogue isn't in the script. In previous editions, Leia wasn't even witness to the destruction. I find it odd that Fisher would say it if it wasn't in the script. If anyone has maybe links to some other editions of the final script, I'd appreciate it.
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Probably ad-libbed. After all, "I know" wasn't in the original script either. This is probably just an alternate take and Lucas had her say it just so he could have something else to work with.

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Just another example of Lucas using 'maximum coverage' and directing it in the editing suite.

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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker
I heard it's being cut down to fit in a two-hour timeslot, so instead of all two-and-a-half hours of the documentary that'll be on the DVD, A&E will only show about 90 minutes of it or so.


That's what I've heard as well. I was afraid of that. Well, my retal shop had the Indy extra disc, hopefully they'll have this one.


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well if anyone does capture this... i think we may have another torrent on our hands!
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Assuming the people who have done the ESB and the ROTJ rip don't rip this too.
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Thats good. But I think I'm gonna wait for the DVDs. Yes I'm buying them!!
Gonna take a 2 days off work on the 20th & 21st.
Sit down, roll a few joints and have one big, long, Star Wars fest!!!
Over the 2 days I intend to watch all 3 movies, all the extra shit, then watch all 3 movies with the commentry!!

Oh yeah baby!!

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I wish I could do the same, but duty calls. To school I must go, though tiresome it will be those days I sense. Either way though, you gotta slow down on the joints man.
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Yeah I know, but I only smoke now and then. Anyway, it's the best way to watch films, totally stoned, you get right into the movie you're watching that way!
Thing is, I've watched a load of films that I can't remember a thing about now! Ha!

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im gonna be arrested that day for my protesting..
lol
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oh ya and just something to bring to everyone's attention...
in the A&E biography on Harrison Ford they showed a montage of clips from Star Wars and at the bottom of the screen it has a subtitle "Star Wars 1977" and they ended up showing 60% SE clips...

dont know if that bothers anyone else right now but it pisses me right off...

this whole day has just been one Lucas hate fest for me
LOL
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so what did you guys think??
i feel that ESB and ROTJ were totally screwed for air time...

SW practically got 1 hour (if you want to get technical approx 45 min)
ESB 30 min
ROTJ 20 min

i thought most of it was pretty neat... but they're still lacking on the behind the scenes stuff that was included in "from star wars to jedi: the making of a saga"
and they used SE footage when talking about the films that dazzled audiences...

cough cough bullshit cough cough
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
so what did you guys think??
i feel that ESB and ROTJ were totally screwed for air time...

SW practically got 1 hour (if you want to get technical approx 45 min)
ESB 30 min
ROTJ 20 min

i thought most of it was pretty neat... but they're still lacking on the behind the scenes stuff that was included in "from star wars to jedi: the making of a saga"
and they used SE footage when talking about the films that dazzled audiences...

cough cough bullshit cough cough



Oh come on, I would have thought all the purists would have been pissing themselves that they actually showed the unedited original scrawl from the '77 opening. Still doesn't make up for the total lack of deleted scenes, but I guess I will live.
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