What would Darth Vader have been like as a ruler, if he had overthrown emperor palpatine and became the emperor/ruler of the galaxy himself?? — Page 4

Tyrphanax said:

The concept of the Death Star did not come about until Raith Sienar conceived of it after Palpatine was elected Supreme Chancellor, which could only be any time after Episode I, and Darth Plagueis was murdered during Episode I (the day before Palpatine became Supreme Chancellor, in fact), so no.

Beyond that, you can have as many fanciful scenarios as you wish about Darth Vader being the suddenly-benevolent Emperor of a suddenly-good Empire. All I know is that the Empire is portrayed as very explicitly and obviously evil in the films.

Again, and this will be the final time I attempt to explain this; no matter how many times you repost that quote, or how many others are like it, no matter what Lucas himself says, the official word from Lucas Licensing is that every piece of Star Wars material is on the exact same timeline. The movies, the books, the comics, the games, all of it. It's all on one timeline, it's all part of the same canon, it's all part of the same continuity. The only parallel universe in Star Wars continuity is anything that is marked with the "Infinities" label; if it does not have that label, it is officially on the same timeline, in the same universe, as the films, and therefore part of the same continuity.

The first four paragraphs of this article make that all very clear.

Again, you are welcome to create your own canon in your head; many people here have done so. But the official story is that it is all on one timeline, and that is what I will refer to for all discussions pertaining to the Star Wars canon, whether I like it or not.

Some user on the jedi Council Forums told me that Darth Plageius discussed the idea of the Death Stars with Darth Sidious

If I am enjoying a series, especially an awesome science fictions, I do not want to make up my own fantasized canon, but rather, listen to what the official-copyright owning people say about their series which they made and which I happen to enjoy very much.....

Don't U get my analogies about the spiderman films/movies????

How would you explain that quote that I kept posting???

The EU and the films are two different timelines/storylines, and they do not overlap with each other. What about the sith lords in post ROTJ episode 6 stories after anakin skywalker brought balance to the force???

Tyrphanax said:

That user was wrong.

 

And I am sorry, but I cannot and will not continue to explain that the official stance of Lucasfilm is that all EU is on the exact same timeline as the movies while you continue to ignore it.

I just can't do it anymore.

The EU and the films are not two different timelines/storylines because, officially, all EU is on the exact same timeline as the movies.

Your analogies about Spiderman do not apply to this situation because, officially, all EU is on the exact same timeline as the movies.

You say that you don't want to make up your own canon and want to know what the official copyright owning people say? They say that, officially, all EU is on the exact same timeline as the movies.

Again. Officially, all EU is on the exact same timeline as the movies.

One last time: Officially, all EU is on the exact same timeline as the movies.

One last time-how do your claims explain the George Lucas quote that I kept posting???

One last time-please send a quote to confirm what the people who own the legally-protected copyright to the Star Wars SW series say about canon and the EU expanded universe, and contradict what I said about the spiderman and the james bond movies, and contradict that george lucas quote

One last time-do u even get me analogies????

Tyrphanax said:

No. I am done with you professionally.

I will not bash my head into the brick wall of your neuroses again. I can only hope that, one day, you take a good, long look in the mirror and finally understand what it was all about.

Thank you.

Fine. Can you at least tell me about what U would think of Emperor Darth Vader???

My theories are these.

He would have purged the empire from dissenting admirals, officers, and troops, even in the absence of any war, maybe even just for political dissneters.

He would've done all of the imperial atrocities, like you mentioned in the EU (the expanded universe).

He probably would have used the death star, but possibly not.

He may not have been as evil/opressive as the emperor palpatine Darth Sidious

i wish george lucas was on this forum to answer all of my questions/theories/ideas/speculations/hypotheticals/canon debates

I think he would have got a team of scientists to be build the Choke Star, a battle station about the size of a large leather glove with the ability to choke whole planets.

He would then just go around choking planets by covering them in sand.

Bingowings said:

I think he would have got a team of scientists to be build the Choke Star, a battle station about the size of a large leather glove with the ability to choke whole planets.

He would then just go around choking planets by covering them in sand.

serious discussions here, no joking around.....

Father Skywalker said:

Bingowings said:

I think he would have got a team of scientists to be build the Choke Star, a battle station about the size of a large leather glove with the ability to choke whole planets.

He would then just go around choking planets by covering them in sand.

serious discussions here, no joking around.....

I am being serious.

Palpatine made the Death Star because he liked blowing stuff up so Emperor Skywalker would make the Choke Star because he likes choking up people.

skyjedi2005 said:

I don't know enough about the real Vader Canon backstory circa 1977-1983 to make that determination as to how Vader would have ruled.

I Do know he was a cool movie baddie ruined by Hayden Christensen, and that the Hayden version of Vader never could have kept the empire together, or even bested the Jedi.  Because he is a whiny wimp and not as tall as the real fictionalized Vader from the OOT with Dave Prowse in the suit.

ok, you are  really so nostaglic about the darth vader in the robot samurai suit

well even without the robotic black armor suit darth vader is very godlike and super awesome kickass, and most of all, intinidating

 the Young Lord Darth Vader leading the stormtroopers on Coruscant in the jedi temple walking in that intimidating and arrogant pose, force-choking his pregnant wife and his unborn babies, having yellow eyes from quasi- demonic possession from/in the Darkside of the Force, and slaying helpless enemies with his blue lightsaber (it was actually luke skywalker's lightsaber, not his red lightsaber)

SilverWook said:

You don't need to post the same pictures over and over and over again to make your points. We know who Vader/Anakin is. Knock it off.

I was just responding to another user who said that Vader/Anakin was not intimidating in the star wars prequels trilogy. I was giving examples, posting pictures as a visual way to illustrate my main ideas/points..........

Personally, I think Vader would have been a far better ruler than Palpatine. He probably would have abolished Palpatine's xenophobic decrees and allowed non-humans equal rights within the Empire, wouldn't have committed or sanctioned any genocidal crusades, and probably wouldn't have had planet killing super weapons like the Death Stars built. He wouldn't be entirely benevolent, but he wouldn't be the Space Hitler his master was.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Personally, I think Vader would have been a far better ruler than Palpatine. He probably would have abolished Palpatine's xenophobic decrees and allowed non-humans equal rights within the Empire, wouldn't have committed or sanctioned any genocidal crusades, and probably wouldn't have had planet killing super weapons like the Death Stars built. He wouldn't be entirely benevolent, but he wouldn't be the Space Hitler his master was.

I'm curious what about this friend-betraying, child-slaughtering, father raping, daughter-torturing, Force-choking, sand-hating beast gives you the impression he'd be in any way benevolent.

Unless that post was your human sarcasm. I always have trouble with that.

"Luke, I raped my father!"

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Bizarre allegations aside (snerk), I am currently the editor of a story in which Vader was never injured, killed Palpatine mere days after becoming his apprentice, and ruled the galaxy for over twenty years before abdicating his throne and departing, along with Grand Admiral Thrawn, to the Unknown Regions of the galaxy to fight against alien invaders.  In addition to the familiar characters, the story also features appearances from Revan and the Jedi Exile (as well as the morbidly hilarious assassin droid HK-47) from the Knights of the Old Republic series, as well as an original villain called the Burned Lord, a figure partially inspired by the Joker, whose aim is to consume the galaxy in a Force-induced inferno.

It isn't completely finished yet, but we're consistently posting a new chapter every two weeks.  There are some elements of the prequels here and there, but don't let that put you off—I'm pleased to report there are no midichlorians anywhere in sight.  ;)

link

In short, if you're in the mood to read SW done right, look no further . . . and I would say that even if the author was not a close friend of mine.  (The complete prequel-rewrite I've occasionally mentioned will be his next project after completing this story.)

Does it have the Choke Star?