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Tyrphanax
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What would Darth Vader have been like as a ruler, if he had overthrown emperor palpatine and became the emperor/ruler of the galaxy himself??
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30-Nov-2012, 2:13 AM

Father Skywalker said:

The bad guys are not bad just because they're bad. They're bad for a reason (s). 

The main problem/issue here is not black and white morality. It's this idea that villains are evil just because they're evil and have to  be destroyed. That is BS, and just plain ridiclous........

Even LOTR, a black and white morality storyline, has reasons why sauron is evil; not because "hey im gandalf lets go fight a bad guy, he's bad just because he's bad and we need somebody to defeat today for fun'!!!!!!

Sauron is bad because he is bad as well. There's not a lot of difference between Palpatine's Empire and Sauron's Mordor.

Palpatine's Empire and Sauron's Mordor are bad because they want to control and oppress all of the peaceful, freedom-loving people of their respective worlds and control their subjects through fear, manipulation, torture, violence, and death. They both abuse their otherworldly powers in order to meet these goals:

Sauron uses the power of The One Ring to control the other Rings of Power he had given to the rulers of the respective races of the world of Middle Earth and thus control the rulers and thus control the people.

Palpatine and Darth Vader abuse the Dark Side of the Force to keep not only their men in line, but also to control the galaxy. They use huge, terrifying weapons like Star Destroyers, AT-ATs, and the Death Stars to strike fear into the hearts of anyone who might dare to oppose them, and if need be, they use them to crush any opposition foolish enough to stand against them.

Both are very similar; in fact, it goes for most movies. The James Bond villains are bad because they want to take over the world, Bond is good because he stops them. Loki is bad because he wants to rule the world, The Avengers are good because they stop him. Scarecrow, The Joker, and Bane are bad because they want to do various bad things to Gotham, Batman is goo because he stops them. I could list a hundred more examples.

I'm sorry, but thems the breaks; this is the way it is in most fantasy universes.

 

Father Skywalker said:

What about the galactic sith empires that existed long before the death star???

"once more the sith will rule the galaxy"

"the opression of the sith will never return"

"at last we shall reveal ourselves to the jedi and have our revenge"

"Star wars episode 3-the Revenge of the sith"

 

What about them? They were also evil empires that were destroyed by the forces of good at one point or another. That doesn't make the atrocities of Palpatine's Empire justified in any way, because his Empire is evil, as I state above.