Tyrphanax said:
Father Skywalker said:
Tyrphanax said:
Father Skywalker said:
twister111 said:
Father Skywalker said:
they would've at least had plans and mention of it during episode 6. Darth Vader never told luke skywalker that "join me and together we can destroy the planets with the death star as father and son"".
The hell are you on about!?!? The Death Star from the beginning was a weapon of fear to keep the systems in line so they could just dissolve the senate. It wasn't created to destroy a list of planets. They only needed to demonstrate it's destructive power once to test it then the second time to destroy the rebel base. After that they would have all the fear they needed to keep their power and they would set out to rule the planets from that fear.
They actually used it twice, once on Despayre, the second time on Alderaan, if you count the EU (the expanded universe) as being canon.... Let's not get into canon debates now, however. My point is, what the hell/heck does dissolving the senate and beauracy have anything to do with using the death star???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzs-OvfG8tE
I watched that video and I'm still very confused. Was the death star built as a tool against the rebels?? If the rebel alliance had never existed, would the death star still have been built and used on alderaan and despayre???
Use the death star to rule the galaxy?? What?? I don't get it.... Fear was used to keep the rebels in line, not the people.....No rebels, no death stars, rebels are not good guys, they provoked the war and the destruction of planets.
"No star system will dare oppose the emperor now"
When you have an Evil Empire, there will always be a dissenting group of Rebels opposing it. Especially in a fantasy world.
Ultimately it makes very little sense to debate whether the Death Star would exist if there were no Rebels, because if there were no Rebels there would be no movie because the whole premise of Star Wars is the oppressed people rising up and overthrowing their corrupt and evil government and if that didn't exist, neither would Star Wars.
Umm, star wars is a space opera/science fiction/sci fi story, NOT a fantasy story.......
Second of all, yes, with evil people, you'll have people opposing them........
As for the last paragraph, umm, you said, without the rebels, there would be no star wars and therefore you wouldn't be asking that question....... Yes, that's true, but you're just cut me off at whatever i'm saying, meaning you don't even give any time to consider my question, you just blow it off and assume that it's is wrong and not even a question in the first place.
But please, answer what I said about that, it's a very important and relevant question. I don't ask what if scenarios, and hypotheticals usually, they're stupid, but not when it pertains to the storyline.......
I considered your question, it just seems a bit pointless to me when the whole premise of the film is that there is a just Rebellion against an evil Empire.
I will address it anyway:
The Death Star, as Adywan said, was constructed in order to control the people of the galaxy through fear of its use after the the senate was dissolved.
Again, as Adywan quoted Tarkin: "Fear will keep the local systems in line.... Fear of this battlestation"
It was not built to fight a small band of Rebels, as they were not seen as a threat by anyone but Admiral Tagge, which is why the Rebels were able to evade the Death Star's defenses and destroy it.
As General Dodonna said, the Death Star's defenses were designed around a direct, large-scale assault, which is much more in line with what an opposing star system might send against it.
Remember, at the end of Revenge of the Sith when Vader, Palpatine, and Tarkin are watching it being built? That was back when the Rebel Alliance was just a gleam in Mon Mothma's and Bail Organa's eyes.
So, yes, the Death Star would have been built and used against at least two planets as the purpose of the station was to keep entire planets from rising up against the Empire through the fear of a giant armoured space station that could show up in your system at any time and blow your entire planet up.
So, when was the rebel alliance officially formed?? Both wikipedia and wookipedia claim that the senators meeting (with padme, mon mothma, and jimmy smits), formed the rebellion, but others claim that the rebellion was formed years later on.
What does a direct, large scale assault have to do with an opposing stay system?? Please define an opposing star system in this context?? The rebellion?? Are the imperials a bunch of paranoid stalinists?? Either way, what does that even mean??
BTW, how early was the idea for the death star thought out of?? Please use the Expanded Universe EU here. On the jedi council forums, another user told me that as early as episode 1, darth plageius and darth sidious had the idea of the death star planned out yet.......
What does controlling people through fear to replace the Senate even mean??? The bureaucry had something to do with the death star;how did that control the imperial citizens?? Weren't most of them happy though?? I had a theory that the imperial senate was used to control people.