You_Too said:
TServo2049 said:
(Remember, the original was the only big restoration project of the three.)
I didn't know that. So they didn't touch the negatives of ESB and ROTJ? I guess at least those two negatives still exist in their original form then!
Remember, I said "supposedly." But now that I think about it, they would have had to go back to the raw, unedited camera negatives to recreate the wipes.
I do know that Zombie said that "ILM used the IP's for pretty much all their work in ESB and ROTJ." I guess that's why I said that "supposedly" the O-negs weren't utilized for the film at all, but my conjecture may well be totally wrong.
I don't KNOW that much about the film sources, it's all educated guesses and deductive reasoning. Like, the JSC has to be from the same IP as the 80s video releases because they share the same damage and glue marks, which means that unless they come from two different IPs that share all of the same flaws, the JSC doesn't come from an IP made in '85.
I don't know if that "1985 IP" was used for ANY video releases. The Technidisc/GOUT source was an older element which had stuff like the Tantive burn marks printed in. Those could not have been on the negative, because the video releases, which did come from newer IPs, lacked them.
Maybe the "1985 IP" was the source for the 1991 UK widescreen tape? Although that transfer comes from a source that looks similar to the '82/JSC one (no burn marks, "cloudy" Yavin takeoff composite), it's not the same because it lacks the glue marks, and the weird blobs throughout reel 3.
There's also the question of the pre-THX French/German widescreen laserdiscs, which have the same cloudless Yavin composite as the GOUT, but according to a member that has the French LD, there are no Tantive burn marks. They also had to cut to an alternate, inferior film source for the Greedo scene, suggesting that the main source had subtitles. Was THAT the 1985 IP? I have no idea.
I'd love to have cold, hard facts, but I don't actually have any. Sorry if I gave the impression that I knew something any of you didn't know -- I'm just guessing, and my guesses may be wrong.
I now return you to our regularly scheduled discussion of this preservation project.