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DuracellEnergizer said:

Suspiria (1977) - 5/10




Wait, wait, wait...

WHAT!!?


I found it a pretty-looking film, but I wasn't engrossed in the story or with the characters, and the acting/dialogue was too campy for me to take very seriously. I am planning on watching the Italian-language version eventually, though, to see if it works better for me.

asterisk8 said:



I'm not sure I've seen DuracellEnergizer give a film above a 6/10 rating in this thread.

I'd love to see a list of films Duracell would give a 9 or 10. :)


I have given 7-8 ratings before, but sparingly, and usually to films that I've grown up watching.

And I have no list of movies rated 9-10. I've never seen a movie that qualifies for such high ratings and, IMHO, I doubt any exist.

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xhonzi said:

And I'm totally kidding about the Kevin Mccallister thing, so don't worry about that one.

that moment when I totally missed this joke because I've never seen Home Alone.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

I have given 7-8 ratings before, but sparingly, and usually to films that I've grown up watching.


Such as?

 

DuracellEnergizer said:

And I have no list of movies rated 9-10. I've never seen a movie that qualifies for such high ratings and, IMHO, I doubt any exist.

How can that be? There are no perfect films, so it's pointless to reserve 10s for perfection. A 10 doesn't mean the film is flawless, it means that it is the best of what there is. It's a relative thing. Whether it's an attempt at an objective rating of all films, or a subjective rating of what films you've personally seen, it's relative. For instance, Seven Samurai, Lawrence of Arabia, Barry Lyndon, Sunset Blvd., Vertigo - these are the best films I've ever seen, films of incredible technical skill and beauty that I've become more emotionally and intellectually invested in than any other film. I'm passionately in love with each of them, I could watch them each 1,000 times, so they receive 10s. Maybe there's a better film out there that will lower the score of all of the above, but I haven't seen it yet.

To me, not giving any film a score above a 9 is like saying that there are no films that you are passionately in love with. You must have a favorite film or two that you think are almost perfect and you love and could watch again and again.

It also brings up the issue of whether we're trying to give objective or subjective ratings to films. Are you trying to be objective? Because I don't believe that individuals can give objective ratings, so that's why I tend to use the term "favorite films" instead of "best films". I think the closest we can get to an objective list of the best films is through consensus, by compiling A LOT of subjective lists.

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bkev said:

 

xhonzi said:

And I'm totally kidding about the Kevin Mccallister thing, so don't worry about that one.

that moment when I totally missed this joke because I've never seen Home Alone.

 

what

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asterisk8 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I have given 7-8 ratings before, but sparingly, and usually to films that I've grown up watching.


Such as?

 

DuracellEnergizer said:

And I have no list of movies rated 9-10. I've never seen a movie that qualifies for such high ratings and, IMHO, I doubt any exist.

How can that be? There are no perfect films, so it's pointless to reserve 10s for perfection. A 10 doesn't mean the film is flawless, it means that it is the best of what there is. It's a relative thing. Whether it's an attempt at an objective rating of all films, or a subjective rating of what films you've personally seen, it's relative. For instance, Seven Samurai, Lawrence of Arabia, Barry Lyndon, Sunset Blvd., Vertigo - these are the best films I've ever seen, films of incredible technical skill and beauty that I've become more emotionally and intellectually invested in than any other film. I'm passionately in love with each of them, I could watch them each 1,000 times, so they receive 10s. Maybe there's a better film out there that will lower the score of all of the above, but I haven't seen it yet.

To me, not giving any film a score above a 9 is like saying that there are no films that you are passionately in love with. You must have a favorite film or two that you think are almost perfect and you love and could watch again and again.

It also brings up the issue of whether we're trying to give objective or subjective ratings to films. Are you trying to be objective? Because I don't believe that individuals can give objective ratings, so that's why I tend to use the term "favorite films" instead of "best films". I think the closest we can get to an objective list of the best films is through consensus, by compiling A LOT of subjective lists.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

I have given 7-8 ratings before, but sparingly, and usually to films that I've grown up watching.



Such as?


I assume you want a comprehensive list. Okay, then, here it is. I won't list any short films, as I suppose you're only concerned with feature-length films. Some of the films listed here, though, I only saw once and/or some time ago, so I don't know how I'd feel about them now; I'll put a star beside those ambiguously-rated films to indicate them, okay?

Films I've given 7/10: Fright Night (1985); *Pet Sematary (1989); *King Kong (1933); *Barton Fink (1991); *The Man in the Iron Mask (1998); *Rashomon (1950); *Children of the Corn (1984); Ghostbusters II (1989); Hobo with a Shotgun (2011); Evil Dead II (1987); *Four Rooms (1995); *Arcanum (2009); *Big Trouble in Little China (1986); *The Seventh Seal (1957); Event Horizon (1997); Cube (1997); Poltergeist (1982); Legend (American version) (1985); The Crow (1994); A Christmas Carol (2009); *Dark City (1998); Another Earth (2011); Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events (2004); *Rear Window (1954); Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971); *The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005); *Twelve Monkeys (1995); *Fargo (1996); 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968); The Road (2009); *Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975); Black Christmas (1974); Silent Running (1972); Batman Begins (2005); The Changeling (1980); *Bubba Ho-Tep (2002); *Death Wish (1974); C.R.A.Z.Y. (2005); *Dementia (1955); One Hour Photo (2002); *Mr. Sardonicus (1961); Fahrenheit 451 (1966); *The Chamber (1996); Murder by Death (1976); The 'Burbs (1989); *Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid (1982); Hour of the Wolf (1968); *The Phantom of the Opera (1925); *The Beguiled (1971); *THX 1138 (pre-DVD version) (1971); The Terror (1963); *The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane (1976); *The Thief of Bagdad (1940); Black Sabbath (1963); *Wait Until Dark (1967); X: Man with the X-Ray Eyes (1963); The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra (2001); *Run (1991).

Films I've given 8/10: Fantasia (1940); Superman III (1983); The Frighteners (1996); *The Bodyguard (1992); The Mask of Zorro (1998); *Mr. Bean's Holiday (2007); Highlander (1986); *Desperado (1995); Army of Darkness (1992); Planes, Trains & Automobiles (1987); *The Blair Witch Project (1999); Misery (1990); Mrs. Doubtfire (1993); Stargate (1994); Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984); *Cloverfield (2008); The Lost Boys (1987); Aladdin (1992); Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989); Predator (1987); *Hancock (2008); *The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948); *A Bug's Life (1998); Ghostbusters (1984); The Terminator (1984); *Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991); The Machinist (2004); The Dark Angel (1987); Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981); The Empire Strikes Back (1980); Psycho (1960); *Predators (2010); Super 8 (2011); Toy Story (1995); *The Silence of the Lambs (1991); *Grease (1978); The Lion King (1994); Star Wars (1977); *Bad Boys (1983); Bride of Frankenstein (1935); *A Sunday in Kigali (2006); The Shawshank Redemption (1994); Scrooge (1951); The Hitcher (1986); *Bringing Out the Dead (1999); Fiddler on the Roof (1971); *Stir of Echoes (1999); *The Edge (1997); *The Limey (1999); *Moving (1988); *Shoot to Kill (1988); *The War at Home (1996); Roadgames (1981); *Aurore (2005); *King of the Jungle (2000); *Mystery Date (1991).



DuracellEnergizer said:



And I have no list of movies rated 9-10. I've never seen a movie that qualifies for such high ratings and, IMHO, I doubt any exist.


How can that be? There are no perfect films, so it's pointless to reserve 10s for perfection. A 10 doesn't mean the film is flawless, it means that it is the best of what there is. It's a relative thing. Whether it's an attempt at an objective rating of all films, or a subjective rating of what films you've personally seen, it's relative. For instance, Seven Samurai, Lawrence of Arabia, Barry Lyndon, Sunset Blvd., Vertigo - these are the best films I've ever seen, films of incredible technical skill and beauty that I've become more emotionally and intellectually invested in than any other film. I'm passionately in love with each of them, I could watch them each 1,000 times, so they receive 10s. Maybe there's a better film out there that will lower the score of all of the above, but I haven't seen it yet.


I really don't think there are films that are almost perfect - great movies, yes, but almost perfect? I can't say that about any film I've seen, really, I just can't. Any movie I've seen that seemed perfect or nearly perfect at the time always went down a notch or two after subsequent rewatches (The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and The Machinist are two examples that come immediately to mind).

To me, not giving any film a score above a 9 is like saying that there are no films that you are passionately in love with. You must have a favorite film or two that you think are almost perfect and you love and could watch again and again.


My top favourite film is Stargate. I first saw it back in 1999, have rewatched it all the years since so many times that I've lost complete count, have an obsession with getting all the tie-in novels that came out after it, and want to learn everything there is to know about how it was made. Regardless, it is an incredibly flawed movie, with so much room for improvement, that it isn't funny. It doesn't mean I can't enjoy the elements of the film I like, or the film in general, but I still see the flaws, they can't be ignored, and they influence my evaluation.

It also brings up the issue of whether we're trying to give objective or subjective ratings to films. Are you trying to be objective? Because I don't believe that individuals can give objective ratings, so that's why I tend to use the term "favorite films" instead of "best films". I think the closest we can get to an objective list of the best films is through consensus, by compiling A LOT of subjective lists.


I've never pretended to be anything but subjective with my ratings. I evaluate a film based on how well it clicks for me, personally - aesthetically, emotionally, spiritually, how the performances work within the film, how it all comes together, etc. - or doesn't, for that matter. It's all just my opinion completely, and I make no pretenses otherwise.

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Superman III?

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I really don't think there are films that are almost perfect - great movies, yes, but almost perfect? 

 

Back to the Future (1985) is PERFECT.

 


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stretch009 said:

I really don't think there are films that are almost perfect - great movies, yes, but almost perfect? 

 

Back to the Future (1985) is PERFECT.

 


Not hard to do when you have a time machine. Kinda cheating.

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DuracellEnergizer said:



I've never pretended to be anything but subjective with my ratings. I evaluate a film based on how well it clicks for me, personally - aesthetically, emotionally, spiritually, how the performances work within the film, how it all comes together, etc. - or doesn't, for that matter. It's all just my opinion completely, and I make no pretenses otherwise.

 

Serious question: do you, generally, like movies?

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bkev said:

Superman III?

Is the question mark for why did I watch that?

 

Oh, and I watched "Broadway Danny Rose" on Thanksgiving. A yearly holiday tradition in my home.   

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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

I really don't think there are films that are almost perfect - great movies, yes, but almost perfect? I can't say that about any film I've seen, really, I just can't.

I never said anything about "almost perfect" so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. I said there are no perfect films, so a 10 is reserved for the best of what we have to watch. I said it's a relative thing, so you find a movie you love with the least amount of flaws, and that gets a 10. That's the most any of us can do, especially us amateurs who haven't studied film in a serious, professional capacity.

 

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I evaluate a film based on how well it clicks for me, personally - aesthetically, emotionally, spiritually, how the performances work within the film, how it all comes together, etc.

Like I said, the film that does this the best, with the least amount of flaws, is a 10 for you.

Seven Samurai is my favorite film of all time. I think it's one of the greatest films ever made, but its flaws are a slow beginning, a lack of blood, some OTT performances, and some bad fight choreography. But I give it a 10 because I've never seen a film I love more with fewer flaws.

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Frankenstein Created Woman (1967)

I've wanted to see this one for years and years but the DVD is waaaay OOP. The fourth Hammer Frankenstein finds the Baron tucked away in a small village entrenched with a silly old doctor as he attempts to achieve his latest conundrum, a way of beating death and examining the body's relationship to the soul itself. After the abysmally disappointing Evil, Terrence Fisher returns to the series he began for a film that, despite production limitations, forgoes the typical "monster movie" pitfalls and like Revenge of Frankenstein gets at something else, but this time into the fragile world of the metaphysical and ethereal. The ideas presented alone are worth the watch, and some of them are truly mindblowing.

In short, through discovering a rudimentary cryogenic process and developing an impenetrable energy, Frankenstein isolates the human soul.

3.5 balls out of 4, and I just wish that the overall story and production was stronger to fully suit such a brilliant idea.

 

Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed (1969)

If Woman had a sense of kindliness to it, this one would have a sense of nihilism. This is a bold, dark, ballsy and truly nasty film! Cushing's Baron Frankenstein always hovered on the edge of evil and blind scientific ambition which always prevents the audience form disliking the character. Not anymore. This time around, the Baron is a truly 100% deplorable human monster, capable of anything remotely possible in the name of his own scientific pursuits be it murder, blackmail, torture, rape, violence, manipulation, theft, surgery and anything else conceivable. This is where it comes to a head, the darkest of all possible scenarios for the Baron's future.

To set this film up if you've never seen it, imagine a typical Hammer film. But in the opening here, a figure stands in a doorway only to behead a man walking down the street with a scythe. This is some type of disfigured monster, only to be revealed as a mask concealing the Baron himself. The whole idea behind this film series is that it is the Baron who is the Monster and not any of the Creatures he makes.  Now this idea has come full circle and with the physical recognition of this overarching theme, the Baron is free to be a monstrous as he wishes.

The plot basically deals with the Baron's attempts to find and converse with a colleague who had discovered the secret of  freezing and preserving the brain. Sadly the man went mad, and Frankenstein must blackmail an asylum doctor and his fiancee into helping him to steal the man back in order to get into his brain.

As most who have heard of the film know, there is a very controversial rape scene that after some digging around I found was actually inserted at the request of US distributors who wanted some sex/nudity content. (Not really a sex scene is it?) The scene was quickly inserted against everyone's wishes and sticks out like a sore thumb. (A very sore one.) Ironically this was removed form US prints and for some reason reinstated for the DVD.

As a whole, the film begs for more development, but aside from this the actors and Fisher's direction are absolutely top notch. The latter has some sequences in this film which are completely brilliant. This is a great film marred only by too tight of a production schedule and not enough story development. The ending is fantastic, but the film itself should have been longer.

Something like a 3.75 balls out of 4. This is brutally nasty, and Cushing is so dark that you realize Tarkin would have blown up anywhere on a whim.

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Crouching Tiger - The Tiger Lily Cut (2012)

A mind-bending re-imagining of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon through the use of rewritten subtitles.  Now a story of drugs, love, sex, and more drugs.

9 out of 10 Banana Lime and White Peach Yogurt Fountains.

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bkev said:


Superman III?


Yes, Superman III. The villains are stupid, I agree. As I've said at least once before, though, I am - first and foremost - a fan of the post-Crisis Superman/Clark Kent, and this is the closest any Superman film made thus far has come to portraying that version of the character; Clark being treated with dignity and as an actual character, his relationship with Lana, how the Clark-Superman duality is presented - it all endears me to the film in a way than can never be done with the other Reeve films, including the overrated first two.

DominicCobb said:


Serious question: do you, generally, like movies?


Yes. I have a preference for horror, sci-fi, and fantasy films made prior to the 2000's, but I'm fully capable of enjoying films in other genres/the last thirteen years if they are made well enough. Truth is, my dream is to become a director and make movies of my own. Just because I don't give 90% of the films I see a perfect 10 like everybody else doesn't mean I don't have any love or enthusiasm for the medium.

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DuracellEnergizer said:


I really don't think there are films that are almost perfect - great movies, yes, but almost perfect? I can't say that about any film I've seen, really, I just can't.


I never said anything about "almost perfect" so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.


"You must have a favorite film or two that you think are almost perfect and you love and could watch again and again."


DuracellEnergizer said:


I evaluate a film based on how well it clicks for me, personally - aesthetically, emotionally, spiritually, how the performances work within the film, how it all comes together, etc.


Like I said, the film that does this the best, with the least amount of flaws, is a 10 for you.


I'm sorry, but that is a 10 for you, not for me. I'm not going to denigrate your rating system or your criteria, but it just doesn't work for me.

Perhaps I should just lay out how my rating system works, so everyone can see just where I'm coming from.


1/10 - terrible

2/10 - awful

3/10 - bad

4/10 - not good (below average, but not quite bad)

5/10 - okay

6/10 - not bad (slightly above average)

7/10 - good

8/10 - great

9/10 - excellent

10/10 - perfect


I'm not saying it's a perfect rating system, and perhaps I should do some re-evaluation of the films I've given 5-8/10, but it's the one that makes the most sense for me, and I prefer it over any alternative I've come across.

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Just start using the ball rating system and you'll be fine.

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TV's Frink said:

Just start using the ball rating system and you'll be fine.

3/5 balls.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

DominicCobb said:


Serious question: do you, generally, like movies?


Yes. I have a preference for horror, sci-fi, and fantasy films made prior to the 2000's, but I'm fully capable of enjoying films in other genres/the last thirteen years if they are made well enough. Truth is, my dream is to become a director and make movies of my own. Just because I don't give 90% of the films I see a perfect 10 like everybody else doesn't mean I don't have any love or enthusiasm for the medium.

 

No, that's fine. I was just interested because you said you rate based on how the movies connected to you, personally, but you haven't given many good ratings. So I was just wondering if movies don't tend to click with you.

But, given your assessment of individual rankings, things are clearer.

A lot of people joke with me about my rankings, I don't really mind. Here it is:

10/10 - Almost perfect and perfect

9.5/10 - Excellent

8.5-9/10 - Great

8/10 - Very good

6.5-7.5/10 - Good

6/10 - Okay

5.5/10 - Not bad

5/10 - Not good

<4.5/10 - Bad

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10 - masterpiece

9 - excellent

8 - very good (great)

7 - good

6 - okay

5 - weak

4 - bad

3 - awful

2 - pathetic

1 - abomination

Over the years I find myself rating movies lower in general.

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9.7 balls - Good

3.14 balls - Pie

0.0001 balls - vbangle

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alolol

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Paul (2011).

I heard a lot of bad about this film when it came out and it isn't to the usual Pegg/Frost standard but it's pretty close.

Some of the gags are a bit forced and the whole religion is bonkers stuff is a bit heavy handed but on the whole I liked it.

I prefer Tucker And Dale Vs Evil (2010) but it would make a fine double bill with this picture.

3 Spaceman balls (or blue boobs).

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The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension! (1984) 6.5/10 - Good cheesy fun. Could have been much better, though. The movie doesn't really explain things to well, and the characters and their relationships (which should be the highlight) get practically zero development, and take backseat to... I don't really know what to tell you the truth.

 

Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (1983) 7.5/10 - I like to consider myself almost a Monty Python fanatic. That means I think they're the funniest thing ever, but I've only seen Holy Grail, Life of Brian, and a handful of Flying Circus episodes. It's a problem. I tried to alleviate that by watching this. I was a little disappointed. It's still outrageously funny, but its clear their best jokes were behind them. To top it off, many of the sketches ran a little too long. Still great fun, though.

 

Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974) 8.5/10 - Very well made film with great performances. Not an easy watch, though.

 

Mulholland Drive (2001)

...I don't even know. I just finished watching it so these thoughts are kind of off the cuff. Well, I'll start by saying it was very well done. Very good style. Very good, um...

Okay this movie makes no f*cking sense.

Or does it?

I'm not sure. But I think I liked it. A lot

Yeah, a lot of questions were raised, and I don't think I got any answers. But who cares, really? I could tell pretty early on that I wasn't going to get answers. And I've seen Eraserhead, so I kind of knew how Lynch rolls. I don't think it's really about the answers. At least, to me it's not. Well, I'll admit I hated it for a bit after it ended, but then I thought more about he film I had just watched, the whole thing. When it started to get good, I was on the edge of my seat until the end. I loved that. It was a thrill ride. It had great characters, themes. Part of me feels like Lynch said "f*ck it," and threw away the story for the final third. You know what? that's okay. It makes it that much more interesting. Yeah, I don't know what was really going on. But I like a good ambiguous film. There's a lot of different things that could've been happening. And I got some theories. 

So, yeah, I think I loved this movie. Maybe tomorrow I'll hate it. Maybe I'll love it even more. Right now, I'm giving it a 9.5/10 

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I've heard it's a strange film. I only know it's a strange road! What a view though.

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Scream, Scream 2, Scream 3, Scream 4.

 

1st one was entertaining but the sequels just got worse and worse.

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for.