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adywan said:

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mfastx said:

... R2 is never referred to as "R2-D2" in ANH (at least I don't think) so it's certainly plausible that Obi-Wan just is confused.  I mean, he has been just chilling on Tatooine for 20 years, lol. 

Maybe you should watch the movie again. ;)

"And I am C-3P0, human/cyborg relations...and this is my counterpart, R2-D2"
- C-3P0 (Star Wars: A New Hope)

"R2-D2, it is you. It is you" C-3P0 in the sandcrawler- ANH

"R2-D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer" 3P0 again in ESB

"R2-D2, but y'all can call me 2 Chainz. Was goin' on in dis piece."
-My Imagination  

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The more I think of it the more the TPM saber duel seems to be more iconic in that clone embryo chamber thing than in a weird power station disco/ Super Mario level thing.

I just can't figure out how to make it work storywise.

If the Gungan city and the Kaminoan city were merged you could have them under attack at the same time.

I know I will get it in the neck for universe shrinkage but do we really need two aquarian based cities in the same trilogy?

I love the look of both but I'd prefer to have had one as the above the water level of the same under the water level location.

The efforts to make Geonosis less Tatooine make the same sort of sense.

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Oops!  Sorry guys.. need to brush up a little.  It's funny cause I recently watched ANH:R in anticipation for ESB:R, lol. 

But still I stand by with what I said.  For me it always seemed like ol' Ben actually does recognize the droid, he just doesn't admit it. 

In any case, R2 isn't referred to as R2D2 in front of Obi-Wan anyway. 

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I think there is very clearly a bit of recognition of some kind there. I think thats very obvious. From a 1977 only POV, why would it be there? I take it to mean that Obi-Wan could recognize this specific droid. But it probably means he recognizes this "kind" of droid. And it being somewhat specific to war or fighting or at the very least, that it is a big time droid from the most serious parts of the galaxy.

 

Sometimes it seems like Obi-Wan has always been some kind of old timey not technologically advanced kind of guy. But he knows about droids. He says he doesn't seem to remember owning a droid but on the Death Star he busts out with "plug in. You should be able to get a blah blah blah" So he's quite familar with droids and Astromechs in general.

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Now with Q2's edits out, I completely agree with removing all references to them in the PT.  If only he could have changed their colors and perhaps given a voice, albeit not Anthony Daniels, to 3PO, it really would have further sold the concept and perfected that effect.  That way there is no inconsistency with Ben's ANH statement.

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I don't care about Ben's ANH statement. I just assume he's playing coy. I actually like it BETTER that way. Sue me. 

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You can even read a degree of sadness in Artoo at no being recognised if you want to.

That's what it's like to be a slave.

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Since Adywan mentioned that he will dub over the voices of the Neimoidians and Gungans with new alien sounding languages, will he change the dialogue, too? If so, then what should he change it to? Maybe we can give him ideas on what to change.;)

 

 

Has anyone ever considered doing this?  

 

Place the scene when Zam Wessel puts away her rifle and climbs into her speeder right after the scene where Obi-Wan points and says, "There he is". I never liked how the Jedi just happened to find her in all that traffic, especially when it looked like she flew in the opposite direction way before Anakin saves his master from falling.

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Will Adywan enhance the Prequels by just tweaking and adding things to clarify what GL failed to do, or will he alter and change most of it to fit his tastes?
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According to Adywan he is pulling those films to bits. This isn't an exclusively Adywan thread but I'm really looking forward to those projects and hope the Disney thing doesn't get in the way. Hopefully the sequel trilogy will be so good that Ady won't need to touch them.

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Bingowings said:

According to Adywan he is pulling those films to bits. This isn't an exclusively Adywan thread but I'm really looking forward to those project and hope the Disney thing doesn't get in the way. Hopefully the sequel trilogy will be so good that Ady won't need to touch them.

Disney has NO excuse to make a bad Star Wars movie. They have access to some amazing filmmakers, PIXAR, in my opinion has the best writers and they NEED and SHOULD take advantage of that situation. Now, what would really make me smile is if they announce a reboot of the prequels... Doubt it though.

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It might make sense for someone to attempt a Force Ghost huddle at the end of ROTJ where the older incarnations of Anakin, Yoda and Ben grow young.

That way Seb Shaw and Sir Alec (and Frank Oz's hand) get to appear but if these new episodes use PT actors as Force ghosts the continuity still stands.

I put this idea here because PT regulars might spot better Hayden and Ewan shots for Seb and Alec to morph into than the existing SE Hayden and Ewan needs to be picked from scratch.

Maybe there is material in the making of documentaries or deleted scenes where Hayden doesn't look so Gary Glittery. 

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Bingowings said:

It might make sense for someone to attempt a Force Ghost huddle at the end of ROTJ where the older incarnations of Anakin, Yoda and Ben grow young.

That way Seb Shaw and Sir Alec (and Frank Oz's hand) get to appear but if these new episodes use PT actors as Force ghosts the continuity still stands.

I put this idea here because PT regulars might spot better Hayden and Ewan shots for Seb and Alec to morph into than the existing SE Hayden and Ewan needs to be picked from scratch.

Maybe there is material in the making of documentaries or deleted scenes where Hayden doesn't look so Gary Glittery. 

 

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Argh. Had an Idea!

It has been previously suggested that Sidious is replaced by Dooku in TPM, so the assumption is that Dooku is the Master, and Maul is the Apprentice (following the rule of the two).

Anakin kills Dooku at the opening of ROTS, and it is widely assumed at that point that the Prophecy of the Chosen One has been fulfilled.

At the Jedi Council, continues to sideline Anakin making him feel redundant and impotent. The War is over, the Sith are gone, Anakin has fulfilled his destiny, surely the Star Wars Trilogy is over right? Wrong!

In a big twist Palpatine reveals that he is in fact the Sith Lord, and he had many apprentices.

Not sure how Palpatine could make an effective argument for Anakin to turn to the dark side though.

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I remember seeing a set photo back in the day of the Federation tank and it seemed to be positioned near some Tatooine props because somehow I started speculating that the droid army would invade there which would explain the strong dislike of droids shown in the Cantina scene of ANH and possibly why there were so many for the Jawas to make a living out of salvaging.

I wonder if it would be possible to have the invasion on the desert world and transfer some of the effects to that location.

It would be dramatic to have the fighters swooping down after the podrace and have Qui-gon running to the ship shielding the boy from blasts only to be stopped by Maul.

Naboo could be the next in world targeted or the first world targeted and Tatooine is raided to flush out the Queen.

It would also explain why the Jedi don't allow Anakin to rescue his mother as she she would be on an occupied planet, one of many come AOTC.

The Geonosian scenes could then become scenes on an occupied Tatooine and Anakin would then help liberate his own people as per his childhood dreams. 

 

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Bingowings said:

 

I remember seeing a set photo back in the day of the Federation tank and it seemed to be positioned near some Tatooine props because somehow I started speculating that the droid army would invade there which would explain the strong dislike of droids shown in the Cantina scene of ANH and possibly why there were so many for the Jawas to make a living out of salvaging.

I wonder if it would be possible to have the invasion on the desert world and transfer some of the effects to that location.

It would be dramatic to have the fighters swooping down after the podrace and have Qui-gon running to the ship shielding the boy from blasts only to be stopped by Maul.

Naboo could be the next in world targeted or the first world targeted and Tatooine is raided to flush out the Queen.

It would also explain why the Jedi don't allow Anakin to rescue his mother as she she would be on an occupied planet, on of many come AOTC.

The Geonosian scenes could then become scenes on an occupied Tatooine and Anakin would then help liberate his own people as per his childhood dreams. 

 

Shiiiyyyeetttt, this is genius. You all seeing this? This is genius. 

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MrInsaneA said:

Bingowings said:

 

I remember seeing a set photo back in the day of the Federation tank and it seemed to be positioned near some Tatooine props because somehow I started speculating that the droid army would invade there which would explain the strong dislike of droids shown in the Cantina scene of ANH and possibly why there were so many for the Jawas to make a living out of salvaging.

I wonder if it would be possible to have the invasion on the desert world and transfer some of the effects to that location.

It would be dramatic to have the fighters swooping down after the podrace and have Qui-gon running to the ship shielding the boy from blasts only to be stopped by Maul.

Naboo could be the next in world targeted or the first world targeted and Tatooine is raided to flush out the Queen.

It would also explain why the Jedi don't allow Anakin to rescue his mother as she she would be on an occupied planet, on of many come AOTC.

The Geonosian scenes could then become scenes on an occupied Tatooine and Anakin would then help liberate his own people as per his childhood dreams. 

 

Shiiiyyyeetttt, this is genius. You all seeing this? This is genius. 

It's a great idea, and probably how the movie should have gone, but not sure how possible it is in a fan edit scenario.

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I think it's possible but I recognise it would be a lot of work so not something for the casual editor.

One simple idea almost any editor could do is to not have the blue. "A long time ago" for Episode One but have that the first lines of the first crawl so as a series the blue quote card at the beginning of each subsequent film is "quoting" the beginning of the story. 

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Taking my inspiration from the OT VHS boxes in the Executor tin set, one idea that has been kicking around for a while is making all Old Republic era Jedi have blue saber blades and with Luke as the first green blade (setting a new trend for ST edits).

If this idea was picked up by someone it might be appropriate to recolour the crawls to reflect the dominant Force users of each trilogy.

Blue for the PT (maybe going Red in the end titles of ROTS), Red for the OT and Green for the ST.

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mrbenja0618 said:

I thought this was pretty interesting. The quality is horrible, and it needs a bit more dialogue, but they are pretty much correct in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDOKFSDDk8M

Those are good ideas.  (stealing them for my edit...)

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I thought Padme said, "Take care of doormat the threats on Youtube now".