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What exactly was stopping George from "handing off" the prequels???

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With all of this news of Lucasfilm's acquisition by Disney, there's one quote from Lucas that really sticks out for me:

"The time has come for me to hand off Star Wars to the next generation of filmmakers."

What exactly was stopping him from doing exactly this back in the 90's for the prequels???

We know that George's leaving the DGA prevented him from hiring a union director on ROTJ and he went with Marquand. Were the same restrictions in place by the time he was gearing up for the prequels??? Would that have severely limited his choices had he wanted to hand off the directorial duties??? He says in the Maltin interviews on the '95 vhs that he "might direct the first one and then let other directors handle II and III," so it was at least a possibility at some point.

There's that story I heard about Darabont wanting to either write or direct Episode I (or Lucas wanting him to, I forget which way the story went). Why didn't this happen???

At the end of the day, the only conclusion I can come to is that it was George's midlife crisis and he just had to (officially) jump back in that director's chair after twenty years.

I think George would've always written the story for the prequels, just as he did for the OT, but others should've handled the screenwriting and directing like with ESB.

Also, I should point out that, IMO, a world where other people directed and wrote the screenplays for the prequels pretty much goes hand in hand with a world where the SE's never happened.

Sorry, this is a little stream-of-thought, but I just wanted to get it out there. It's a discussion I've been wanting to start on these boards for a while now.

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But the SE's predated the prequels so I don't see how that world would exist.

Lucas handed over to Kersh because directing the first film gave him a nervous breakdown.  He thought he could take a back seat and that would relieve the stress.  As it was he was more hands on with episodes five and six than he intended.

I think he directed the prequels because it was simply easier than when he first tackled the films.  Advances in CGI made it possible for him to "realise his vision" with much greater ease than in the seventies and eighties - remember, it was seeing Jurassic Park that made Lucas say "now is the time".

I'm sure that ego probably played a part, too.  It's his story, his universe, so why wouldn't he want complete and total control of how the films turned out?

That's some bad hat, Harry
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The SE '97 would have existed, no doubt - it already did! However, the '04 and '11 versions probably wouldn't have been made, and the OOT would have been preserved.

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The CG modifications in the 97 SE editions were really to test the concept of adding CG characters to the SW films, once proven he announced the Prequels

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I think the answer is that Lucas had a lot more enthusiasm for Star Wars back then than he does now.

All I really want is each film as it was originally seen and heard in theaters; no fixes, corrections, "improvements" or modifications necessary.

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Lucas needed to prove himself as a director and visionary. He saw guys like James Cameron doing Titanic and felt he should belong in that upper echelon of visionary directors.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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Because he wanted to do them himself. He was wanting to get the prequels made, he was wanting to get back to directing, and Star Wars was popular enough in the early 1990s that he knew he could make lots of money off of it. Those are the reasons he has given; they seem legit.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

The SE '97 would have existed, no doubt - it already did! However, the '04 and '11 versions probably wouldn't have been made, and the OOT would have been preserved.

I guess my point was that part of the SE's purpose was updating the OT to fit the vision George had in his head for the eventual six-film saga. Yes, he had to further tweak this in '04 after he'd made the first two prequels and was in the midst of the last, but almost all of the changes to the OT's visual effects were done in '97.

Perhaps this is where I'm overthinking things a bit. Would other directors have made prequels devoid of cgi characters, so that it wouldn't be (jar)-jarring to go from cgi gungans to people in suits??? Maybe the SE's were an inevitability in regards to the prequels, regardless of their directors.

I still think there might've been another way. They could've re-released the OT in '97 after doing strict restorations and no revisions. Then, directors could've come along and made prequels that, once finished, would line up fairly seamlessly with the restored OOT.

Even without George directing the prequels, the idea of there being two completely different versions of the OT out there kinda goes against the idea of there being a six-film saga that perfectly lines up.

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....Also George was pushing boundaries....the first digitally projected movie....one of the first main characters to be CG.....one of the first directors shooting in digital,...etc

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I can't see how money was ever the motivator.  George was hardly on the bones of his arse when he came around to making the prequels.  And he personally financed all of the films himself so he'd have to have an awful lot of confidence to think he was going to make a ton of money off them. 

I don't know if Titanic really justifies Cameron as a visionary director.  I really don't see any boundaries being pushed in that film.  Avatar, yes; Terminator 2, most definitely.

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Lucas has said money was one of the motivators. His company was doing okay in the 1980s, but they had to work hard creating new products without any more Star Wars movies or toys. They diversified, created LucasArts, Skywalker Sound and Pixar, which they then sold, plus they started creating tv cartoons and tv films, as well as Disney Land attractions. But a lot of them were in shaky shape because they were still new. ILM was luckily doing fine, but Lucas also made some bad investments in films that didn't return much profit, like Twice Upon A Time, Howard the Duck and Tucker.

So, it was only in the early 1990s that Lucasfilm started stabilizing and making good profit. This coincided with the Star Wars rebirth starting with Heir to the Empire and Dark Empire. That huge resurgence of Star Wars merch lifted Lucasfilm from doing reasonably well to doing very well. By the mid-1990s, Lucasfilm now was making enough money to finance a feature film on it's own, which was Lucas' goal, to return to directing using his own money. So, he looked, and he was faced with this: he could put all his money into some weird original film he wanted to make, but if it wasn't a financial success that would kind of be it, Lucasfilm would have to struggle again to get themselves back to that position. But if he took that same amount of money and made a Star Wars prequel, it would guarantee to double Lucasfilm's income, so that they wouldn't have to worry about whether something flopped or not. That's one reason that Lucas made Phantom Menace so kid-friendly--if the film flopped it was all the money the company had at the time.

Unfortunately, Lucas never got around to doing the OTHER things that the prequels were designed to financially secure. I think he just got tired, lazy, and afraid of challenging himself. So, he made the prequels because they would make him the most money, but then he just sat on the money and made more Star Wars spin-offs, so he essentially ended up doing just to get himself richer.

There's a good exchange from him and Charlie Rose in 2004:

Lucas: At the same time, my kids are getting older now. That’s why I got to go back and do more Star Wars. And when I went back to do more Star Wars I had a very soul-searching discussion with myself about “should I go off and do these three Star Wars or should I go off and do these other movies that I want to do?” And now my kids are old enough that I can go back and direct movies—which is what I wanted to do. And I opted for the Star Wars thing because again it was one of these “well, the opportunity is there and I think I’d be foolish not to do it... I decided one of the reasons to go back to Star Wars was that it would hopefully make me financially secure enough to where I wouldn’t have to go to a studio and beg for money... That’s what I’ve earned. That’s what I’ve been struggling for all of these years in the end, to be able to do what I want to do without a lot of corporate interference and craziness. And I felt strongly enough about it to where I dedicated myself to getting to a point where I could be independent enough to not have to go down the path of compromise for the sake of somebody who isn’t really that interested in what you’re doing anyways.

    Charlie Rose: But are you saying you just got to that point?

    Lucas: Pretty much. I’ve always had to invest everything in what I’ve been doing. So, like with all the Star Wars films, I took everything I made out of Star Wars and invested it in Empire Strikes Back. I took everything that I made in Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars and I put it into Return of the Jedi. When I finished all of that, unfortunately I got a divorce and that sort of set me back quite a ways. So then I had to kind of start over again. So then it took me six years to get back to point where I was financially even. And build my companies up. And then I started working again. And then I decided one of the reasons to go back to Star Wars was that it would hopefully make me financially secure enough to where I wouldn’t have to go to a studio and beg for money. And so I took all the money that I had at that point and I invested it in The Phantom Menace, and then I did the other one [Attack of the Clones] and now I’ve got it all in this one [Revenge of the Sith]

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I believe Warner's just dumped Twice Upon a Time and didn't give it a proper theatrical release. (A fate that befell a couple other non Disney animated films that decade.) Aside from a Los Angeles screening for which I got a mailed invitation from the original SW/LFL fan club, I don't think it ever played anywhere else.

IIRC, none of the other Ladd Company produced films Warner's distributed at the time were big hits, save for the first Police Academy. :/

Where were you in '77?

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I remember that Charlie Rose episode, he was very frank about the financial factor. He really wanted LFL to be a true heavyweight, he wasnt thinking of his personal wealth but the company needed it. Plus He'd just spent a LOT of money on Young Indy, including whole episodes that never even aired. That ain't cheap.

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So I guess the big reason he directed it himself was pretty straightforward then:

He started off as a director and then became the man in charge of a company. When he finally had enough money to self-finance a prequel trilogy, he wanted to make sure every decision being made on the movie was a sound one, business-wise. So, why not go back to being the director instead of going through a middle-man producer?

Yeah, never thought of it that way.

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Didn't AOTC perform rather poorly in relation to TPM, certainly in financial terms?  And if I was going to make money I wouldn't do it with a film like ROTS (although certainly in terms of not letting my son watch it until he reached a certain age it actually made him want to watch it more and now it's his favourite of the series!).  I don't deny TPM is the most juvenile of all the films (although that flabby middle bit on Coruscant is a real turn off for kids) and certainly the interview quoted above speaks for itself but when I watch the prequels it never occurs to me that the governing factor is mammon. 
That's some bad hat, Harry
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AOTC Domestic Gross- $302,191,252
AOTC Production Budget- $115 million (officially; unofficially, people with no reason to lie assure me the budget for all the prequels was closer to $100 mill even)

Anybody who's ashamed of those numbers should have his head examined. It more than doubled the production budget in both the domestic and international territories. Frankly, AOTC was in some ways always the riskiest movie. Episode I was going to benefit from being the first Star Wars movie in a long time and Episode III would benefit from having most of the cool stuff people were waiting for. But AOTC was destined to do least because it had the least riding on it in terms of public expectations and marketing. It hit a lower figure than TPM, no doubts there, but I don't think many people found that too surprising.

All I really want is each film as it was originally seen and heard in theaters; no fixes, corrections, "improvements" or modifications necessary.

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If (especially after the viewer response to TPM) I had managed to make a film so holistically pants as AOTC I would be very ashamed of fooling so many people into giving me money to see it.

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I really like AOTC.
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I really liked AotC when it came out, and still view it fondly. 

I think the issue tends to be that TPM didn't hook as many people into the PT as was expected.

With TPM... so much was jam-packed into it, and it had such a different feel from the OT, that a lot of people had to see it two or three times just to wrap their heads around it. A lot of reviews these days contain "I saw The Phantom Menace like 5 times in theaters". I don't think that was the case with AotC. Some people didn't like TPM, and didn't come back. Some people came back hoping AotC was better, and decided it wasn't. Most people saw it once, shrugged their shoulders, and waited for RotS to figure out where the hell this was all heading. A small minority loved the film and followed the SW trend of multiple viewings.

Generally though, it succeeded because it was a Star Wars movie. 

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3: L8wrtr
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I saw each of the prequels twice at the flicks only because other people who I knew wanted to see it with me (first viewings were with the missus). I'm not into seeing films more than once at the cinema as a rule.

TPM, despite being aimed at a younger age group, was still not as accessible and cut-and-dried as ANH. All that stuff about symbiosis, midichlorians and dualty, as well as the political skullduggery, would be hard for any six year old to get their head round. Likewise, AOTC required a lot of investment from the viewer with only the final 45 minutes providing anything approaching what we'd come to expect from a Star Wars film.

That said, I really like the film and I've always felt that multiple viewings paid off. But it's very heavy-handed for a kid's movie.

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Which is funny, because despite it being mostly adults that went to see it, most people went there with intentions to watch it as their "inner child", thus making it too heavy handed for a lot of them as well.

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3: L8wrtr
4,6-9: Hal9000
5: Adywan

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The last time he tried to hand off a project  was empire strikes back,  he learned a hard lesson as that film nearly went 3 times over budget and schedule.

For the prequels to be brought in on money and time he had to have complete control.

 

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Luca$'s swollen head due to a galactic ego I think was the main reason coupled with $$$$$$$.  And not just from SW, but to pimp out ILM to other filmmakers.  I sure wished he would've handed them off.

"There's no cluster of midiclorians that controls my destiny!" -Han Solo, from a future revision of ANH

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Of course, folk who post on internet forums don't have an ego, do they? No, nary a whiff of ego round here...

That's some bad hat, Harry
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Easterhay said:

Of course, folk who post on internet forums don't have an ego, do they? No, nary a whiff of ego round here...

*cough*