Darth Mallwalker said:
Not 15, it's 50! (132114-132163)
Wow thats loads! I did count them, but it was several months ago. Fifteen kind of sounds like fifty. That's my story and I'm sticking to it ;) You are of course right, if I remember correctly (which I haven't!) its a big chunk from them dueling in the corridor just before they are shown in the doorway.
I wonder if the laserdiscs have the same frames missing.Over the past weeks I've been comparing US & Japan LD captures.
Not my own caps-- I don't own those LDs, but ones available on usenet.
Both sources are raw 29.97fps pulled-down which is good from a certain frame-counter's point of view.
Lots of IVTC'ing ensues and by this point we got sync scripts for US trilogy & Japanese sequels.
US & Japan have different side breaks in some cases, which is also good for frame-counters like us.
Looking back at some notes from Sept, the US ANH LD lacks
85225-85226
147671+147672
and it's missing one field of 162630.
Should be able to provide more specifics for sequels in the coming days.
Earlier in the thread I agreed with msycamore about inserting 75305 into ESB.
After noticing variation between US & Japan versions I've had some radical new idea about that.
If we're to believe the audio evidence, perhaps two frames are missing instead of one.
I need to present that evidence here.
ROTJ frame counting is finished but I haven't done any audio analysis of that one yet, so I can't comment on msycamore's proposed numbers.
Excellent. I do own both NTSC and PAL laserdisc sets, just need to check them. TB broadcast of ESB is missing 75305 and 75306. I'll give the NTSC and PAL sets a look tonight.
ROTJ may be correct with the numbers myscamore posted before, I did manage to sync the DTS to that at 24fps. The only piece that in theory should differ from the DVD is the insert of Naboo, it could well be a case that, because its in the last reel, I may be off by the end by a frame or two. Maybe we could figure out the first frame of the last shot to confirm we've got the right length, in addition to confirming the reel change points?