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SilverWook said:

There was only one letterboxed LD of NSNA released in the U.S., so no brainer. ;)

There was a Japanese pressing, but according to the LDDB, subtitles are in the picture.

It would be ironic if the renegade Bonds look better on Blu than the official ones.

Silly me! I should have checked LDDB first.

This one, right? http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/09158/14160/Never-Say-Never-Again-%281983%29

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That's the one. It says "widescreen edition" in really small print at the bottom.

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That's the one on my wishlist. Ironically, NSNA and CR look like their original theatrical presentations far more than the official films. Cr appears to be the same video master used for the DVDs and lacks the pop that the film should have in vintage 35mm. NSNA looks to be a fresh revival of its master with some minor cleanup but also lacking overall despite better showing off some of Slocombe's composition.

What you're seeing Asaki is yet another repressing of the UEs as single discs minus all extras, likely with the new single BD artwork. This makes about the 6th or 7th repackaging of these so far.

Single disc issues, Lenticular cover issues, lenticular 2 disc issues,  2 disc issues, White/grey backing single disc issues, white/grey backing 2 disc issues, and now BD single cover single disc issues. Good grief.

 

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AntcuFaalb said:

SilverWook said:

There was only one letterboxed LD of NSNA released in the U.S., so no brainer. ;)

There was a Japanese pressing, but according to the LDDB, subtitles are in the picture.

It would be ironic if the renegade Bonds look better on Blu than the official ones.

Silly me! I should have checked LDDB first.

This one, right? http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/09158/14160/Never-Say-Never-Again-%281983%29

That's the right one. I recently purchased this for 1.99 on eBay. They are cheap and easy to find. 

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It borders on criminal what the NSNA Blu Ray is going for on Ebay these days. Hope it goes back into print soon.

On a related note, the MST3K episode of Neil Connery's only spy opus "Operation Double 007", aka "Operation Kid Brother", hits DVD next month.

I'd love to see a widescreen version of the uncut film though.

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Asaki said:

Ack! Apparently NSNA is out of print and on the pricey side.

I guess I probably won't be owning that one any time soon.

 

Or maybe you can!

NSNA BD is still available in asia and it's the exact same disc that was released in the US.

 

I just got mine a couple weeks ago from play-asia, but since I posted about this in AVS it now seems they're out of stock.

Fortunately, it's still available at another of my fav. asian stores for US 25,99:

http://www.yesasia.com/global/never-say-never-again-1983-blu-ray-hong-kong-version/1019600734-0-0-0-en/info.html

If you've never orderd from them, don't worry, they're very reliable. I've been shopping with them for years now, and they have great reputation with members of AVS and BD.com.

 

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Doh! I should have thought of that! I've bought from them before too.

Thanks for the tip!

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Still a bit pricey for a movie that I don't even remember if I liked or not =)

Not to mention, I wouldn't be able to do anything with a BluRay disc.

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Holy crap! Thank you for that tip.

There was no way I would pay that the near 100+ dollars people are asking here in the states. Awesome, gonna order this coming week. 

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The deeper I get into the UE's, the weirder the transfer issues get. I started noticing parts of a shot being smudged or blurry on Octopussy, (usually at the top of the frame) and thought maybe it was some artifact of the camera lenses.

Then I saw more of the same on AVTAK and TLD. It's even worse on LTK, there are scenes in Sanchez's office with weird stuff swirling around the actor's heads when they are in front of wood paneling. The shots of the tv with Wayne Newton look like freeze frames! That grain isn't moving.

I presume it's not supposed to look like this?

I watched Dr. No through Moonraker on a smaller tv a few years back, and didn't notice this stuff before.

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SilverWook said:

The shots of the tv with Wayne Newton look like freeze frames! That grain isn't moving.

 Yeah, I noticed that straight away on The Spy Who Loved Me; DVNR through the roof! @_@

I think I'll be able to handle it though, with how often I watch these movies...Goldeneye I think is the only one I've even seen more than once.

Planning a marathon sometime soon, though. Hopefully right after the Christmas marathons are over.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/16mm-GOLDFINGER-1964-IB-Technicolor-Print-SEAN-CONNERY-Agent-007-James-Bond-/181029351847?pt=US_Film&hash=item2a2630b1a7

Auction for 16mm IB Tech of Goldfinger, with printed matting in frame. This looks similar to the 16mm IB tech FRWL posted a year or so ago. I know these photo captures cannot be used as a true resource, but it does give an idea as to the true appearance of the film and just how much of the overall darkness has been lost. This coloring looks like a cross almost between the alternate Criterion coloring and the traditional we're used to on the MGM/UA transfer.

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Nice looking print. As with the OT prints, I wonder about the history of these.

Back in the 70's, when my local Kmart had Super 8 films for sale, I don't recall ever seeing any Bond films. There must have been some released at some point?

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I checked the Sean Connery Volume 2 DVDs the other day. The discs have different art printed on them, but they seem to be the UEs otherwise.

I was going to say they have the original mono soundtracks added on, but from what I've seen of the UEs, the whole "They don't have the original soundtrack included." thing must be a PAL-only complaint.

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So, after buying most of the Bond LD's, I ended up with three versions of Thunderball. Two versions I'm keeping, the Connery Collection and the 30th Anniversary, but, should I keep the 89' version? Is there any audio difference or anything like that? What about DAF, I have the 89' and the Connery Collection. 

I'd appreciate any help with this.

On a side note, I did pick up a new LD player, the CLD-D704 clone, Mitsubishi M-V7057. It's going to be nice to have digital sound on most of my LD's.

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On a related note, are the Fox and MGM widescreen versions of License to Kill essentially the same master? 

And congrats on the new player, Krycek87! Avoid using the auto reverse too often, and you'll have fewer problems in the long run.

Scored the SE of Moonraker at Big Lots tonight, and spotted Dr. No in the same bin. So there are still some SE DVD's floating around if anybody is still after these versions.

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Thanks for the tip. I'm still pretty new to this "world." Though to be honest, I'm really liking the quality of these Bond discs. I guess the colors and the sound help out a lot and that I've pretty much grown up watching the SE/UE DVDs.

As for Licence to Kill, I believe they were with the exception that the Fox release was prone to rot. 

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I got the LTK SE DVD in the mail and gave it a spin for a few scenes. Wow! The 5.1 mix is way better than the UE. I suspect it's more faithful to the original theatrical mix.

The only downside is obvious print wear, and at least one nasty compression artifact in the bank scene, where the encoding seems to choke on the fine detail of the wrought iron staircases. It's also not the fully uncut version.

Starting the hear the siren song of those lovely old LD's on Ebay. Must resist! ;)

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Isn't that always the case? ;) I think I might get both the MGM LD and the Japanese one rumored to be uncut but full screen.

I think primarily a better pressing on the MGM being a few years newer, and the Fox is indeed rotty as my Side 3 is speckle filled. Hopefully I can get an MGM soon to do a shootout, but I don't expect much difference.

Some of the SE discs had errors that were supposedly corrected by the time of the 3 volume boxes, has anyone ever had any that were correct? IIRC these were among them TLD with the missing subtitle captions restored, something on LTK and OHMSS with the missing lines restored.

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Would these fixed versions have ever been sold as singles? I've seen lots of copies of the OHMSS SE at Big Lots lately.

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captainsolo said:

OHMSS with the missing lines restored.

As the SE DVD transfer for OHMSS was among the better ones (really vivid colors and decent detail), I'd definitely be interested in an uncut, full DVD quality transfer of the SE master.

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What scene had missing lines? When Blofeld is talking to Tracy before the helicopter attack? I can at least check the copy I bought a few years ago.

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It was that, and a few other little bits. Here's the best summery of the SE mistakes:

These are the confirmed defects with the Bond titles, for which corrected repressings have been made. To get your replacement discs, call MGM Customer Service at 1-877-MGM-4YOU, and follow the directions for defective DVDs. You will be sent a prepaid UPS shipping label via e-mail which you can print out and use to send back your DVD(s). They will then send back the corrected DVD(s) to you (brand-new, shrinkwrapped copy like you would buy in the store). Corrected copies supposedly have **** around the title on the white sticker on top of the sealed DVDs (such as, **** Octopussy ****), but I have not always found that to be the case. My corrected NSNA did not have the stars.

The Man with the Golden Gun - In Chapter 21, at approximately 81:30, at the beginning of the car chase, the disc will pixelate and lock up on many DVD players due to a mastering error.

Octopussy - In Chapter 12, at approximately 37:00, Bond flips a bad guy onto a bed of nails. The owner of the bed says something and the English subtitle translation is missing ("Get off my bed!")

Never Say Never Again - In Chapter 19, at approximately 65:50. There are about 4 minutes of footage missing from this point, the beginning of the second layer of the disc. The missing footage starts right after Bond gives a cigarette case to a security guard in a closet and tells him it's a bomb. Scenes from this missing footage include Bond saying his line, "My name is Bond, James Bond." to Domino as she stands in front of an arcade game machine and Bond having a conversation with Largo as Largo stands behind a bar. Largo challenges Bond to play the game in this scene.

The Living Daylights - In Chapter 7, at approximately 19:30. After the plant worker pushes her supervisor off of her bosom, there are missing English subtitles which translate her words ("What kind of girl do you think I am!)




These following Bond titles also have errors. Corrected versions have not yet been made, but in a HTF Post by MGM officials on April 30, 2001, they had this to say: "License To Kill and On Her Majesty's Secret Service - Corrected versions of these titles will be made available when MGM re-releases these DVD's sometime in 2002. If you are unhappy with your current DVD, you will be able to exchange it with MGM customer service at that time." It is unknown which problems exactly they are correcting, and if they will correct all the ones listed below.

On Her Majesty's Secret Service - In Chapter 18, at approximately 75:05. Weird "humming" audio over a scene of a rock climber actually belongs to 3 seconds of missing video which occurs right before this scene. Also, some missing lines (quoted from someone else's report): On the DVD, right after Telly Savalas delivers the line, "Tracy, don't be so proud. Your father's own business is not entirely within the law", it cuts to Bond and Draco in the helicopter, completely cutting the line "His brotherhood also have exotic ways of keeping it a closed shop" which is on the laserdisc and VHS tape. The stock car race scene has completely different editing and appears to be about 20 seconds shorter than the versions on my laserdisc and tape (I didn't time it so I can't be exact). Finally, after the stock car race, when Tracy says "We didn't even stop for the prize", Bond's line "I told you that crowd would discourage them" has also been cut.

Licence to Kill - In Chapter 44, at approximately 98:00. When the guy explodes in the chamber, there is apparently a popping sound and the blood actually splattering against the window which is missing. There may also be additional gore and violence in other parts of the movie missing (unconfirmed).

I bought my SE OHMSS a few years ago at Big Lots and it is uncorrected. I've thought that the only way to ensure correct SE discs is by buying the three volume blue-gold-silver box sets.

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